What is the future of the Taycan? -"The development of the planned new platform for electric vehicles in the 2030s will be rescheduled."

[atebit]

You mean this one? Saw one in Munich the other day.

Whats’s that & does it come in yellow?

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[CDT]

....and don't overlook the 80 year old tech geezers like me.
I want my 718 E asap!

59 Year old who desperately wants one as well. Just do a two-door version of the Taycan and call it a day. I think that would be amazing.

 

[CDT]

I agree with everyone else who said you cannot beat Porsche’s driving position and handling characteristics. I currently own four electric vehicles and have had a few since 2011.
I knew I wanted a Taycan the minute I sat behind the wheel. It just feels so right and so well put together. 100 mph feels like 50 mph in most cars.

 

[Sace]

Software, range….

Steering, damping, road holding, sportiness, cornering feel, comfort, body, rigidity, overall driving experience, braking, pedal feel, seating position, material quality, enjoyment factor, brand identity. THESE make a car. Especially drivers car.

I understand that people rather travel from A to B than enjoying the way, but Porsche was never about it.
Maybe too many people bought Porsche who should not since not understanding the brand.

Porsche has proved with the Taycan, an EV can be more than just a software on wheels. That is sad people can't appreciate the DRIVE anymore, want rather a rolling self driving software.

Taycan is the only one real CAR on the EV market. I drove most of them, no competition.

I agree on most of this. The issue for me is however that Porsche fails to fix the problems the car have. I honestly don't mind a basic SW featureset as long as they WORK. But they don't. Basic stuff like like the navigation is now broken on (at least european) Taycans. Postponing a new generation while seemingly already having abandoned work on the existing cars seems like giving up entirely.

For me the beauty of a Porsche is that it is super fun to drive while also being useable as a daily driver. If I needed a weekend sports car I would never have chosen the Taycan.

 

[feye]

Taxation of China is off topic.
My well optioned Taycan GTS was EUR155k, My 992.2 GT3 EUR232k. Incl. VAT. So what...

It's not all tax, China was the cash cow for Porsche, and they NEVER had to invest anything in China, no factory there, 100% import!

 

[feye]

What a disgustingness. These people have no idea about style.

You can trash talk this all you want! Fact is: The Chinese dump a new model every 6 months, Porsche needs 3 years and then takes a complete U-Turn. WTF?

 

[feye]

Whats’s that & does it come in yellow?

I think MG brand. Don't care.

I only care, that Porsche does not have an electric car like this. I am bored with all the presentation and grand anoucements, and then you go to the showroom and you see NOTHING!

 

[Fogsvans]

Basic stuff like like the navigation is now broken on (at least european) Taycans.

It took me about 6 hours initial driving to realize that the built in navigation is an absolute joke. I never use it now and rely instead on Google/Apple maps through Apple carplay. The only issue is prewarming of the battery during winter that require the built in navigation. But that's another day...... I'm an old sod and really don't need most of the fancy stuff as long as the car takes me comfortably to where I want to go.

 

[Sly_North]

Whats’s that & does it come in yellow?

MG Cyberster (and yes, MG is now Chinese). Seems to be the only electric coupe/conv currently on the market

 

[Bognar67]

From this aspect looks significantly better. Seeing the website, it looks much better overall.

I don't think it is cross shopping with Porsche, but good to know there is an EV convertible.

Good luck to MG, not easy to step in to this segment with an EV.
People still insist on ICE with fun cars. Much more than everyday cars.

But charging extremely slow, 38 min 10-80%/150kW DC on a 77kWh battery pack. I do not understand how can they come out with it nowadays.

Will need to see how does it drive anyway.

 

[Sly_North]

There are already reviews of the Cyberster. Autotrader (Rory who was on TG), CarWow, Dog Demuro, Top Gear...
"Porsche, Tesla, your move".

 

[Bognar67]

It is definitely not a sports car (weight, handling, steering, seating position and seats) but could be a winner with its price as an open top cruiser.

Porsche is clever not to put the pack in the floor (e718) but behind the seats where the mid engine sat before. With 800V 300kW+ charging next to the unique batt packaging that will be insane, and unique in its category.

As a car guy I am happy with any introduction, especially with these kind ones. Chinese were clever to make it with an MG that has long tradition with small roadsters.
I like it. -But stay with a GT3 still. And waiting for the e718 a lot.

 

[Bognar67]

It's not all tax, China was the cash cow for Porsche, and they NEVER had to invest anything in China, no factory there, 100% import!

Porsche is all about 'Made In Germany'. Would be a huge risk to outsource it.
Especially they do not have a factory not only in China but nowhere else with an expectation of Cayenne that is assembled in Slovakia. As you said, you are German, I do not understand your China bias and sensitivity.
As a German local patriot you should be happy to keep workplaces in Germany.

I am sure the factory do not sell the cars on higher price to its key market China than EU or NA or elsewhere. So I am afraid the extremely high prices you mentioned is due to of taxation.

Anyway as a German guy, why didn't you buy your Taycan in Germany on nearly half price than you bought it in China?

 

[chun]

Porsche is all about 'Made In Germany'. Would be a huge risk to outsource it.
Especially they do not have a factory not only in China but nowhere else with an expectation of Cayenne that is assembled in Slovakia. As you said, you are German, I do not understand your China bias and sensitivity.
As a German local patriot you should be happy to keep workplaces in Germany.

I am sure the factory do not sell the cars on higher price to its key market China than EU or NA or elsewhere. So I am afraid the extremely high prices you mentioned is due to of taxation.

Anyway as a German guy, why didn't you buy your Taycan in Germany on nearly half price than you bought it in China?

As a customer, I couldn’t give a rats ass where the car is made, as long as it’s good and a good deal.
Don’t care if Germans lose their jobs; if they can’t make good products, then though luck.
Isn’t this what a global economy is all about? The best product wins.

 

[Bognar67]

As a customer, I couldn’t give a rats ass where the car is made, as long as it’s good and a good deal.
Don’t care if Germans lose their jobs; if they can’t make good products, then though luck.
Isn’t this what a global economy is all about? The best product wins.

Agreed most of it up to the point it is balanced and not biased.

And believe me many Porsche buyer would not buy a Porsche made out of Germany.
They studied it many times.

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