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  1. fullmetalbaal

    So, is it acceptable or normal for dealerships to add $20k Premium?

    Yup. Those experiences should all exist. And then there are those of us that value predictable pricing and see it as a longer term relationship. I bought furniture at Room & Board precisely because i won't have to see a "now 25% off!" discount flyer a week after buying furniture (pretty much...
  2. fullmetalbaal

    So, is it acceptable or normal for dealerships to add $20k Premium?

    What I meant with "funny business" is not incompetence. There's plenty of that any time you deal with sales and with support. I meant games designed to make you pay more, change the deal you agreed to, blatantly lies to extract more money.
  3. fullmetalbaal

    So, is it acceptable or normal for dealerships to add $20k Premium?

    Good thing that Porsche isn't working with obscene margins on their most desirable cars, on accessories, replacement parts etc. Oh wait. The larger point though is across brands. There are supply constrained brands you can buy without markups. Both luxury and otherwise. The american car...
  4. fullmetalbaal

    So, is it acceptable or normal for dealerships to add $20k Premium?

    Dunno. The Teslas were the best buying experiences we've had. Order online. Complete all transactional details except final signature via app. Arrive at dealer, sign one line, depart in less than 15 min. (Average for picking up a German car has been >3hrs for me - that's BMWs, Audi, MB...
  5. fullmetalbaal

    So, is it acceptable or normal for dealerships to add $20k Premium?

    Again - just because they CAN doesn't mean they SHOULD. There are plenty of supply constrained products you can buy without mark-ups. Also - keep in mind that IF Porsche decided they wanted this kind of relationship with customers, a tactical, transactional one vs. longer term loyalty... then...
  6. fullmetalbaal

    So, is it acceptable or normal for dealerships to add $20k Premium?

    Well Porsche dealers do both: mark up on ANY model that gets hot, whether on the lot or not, and you need to be top customer and/or have real connections to get a hold of a GT3 etc. And Ford is mass market, Ford dealers do this too. This is a disease in the US - German car dealerships for...
  7. fullmetalbaal

    So, is it acceptable or normal for dealerships to add $20k Premium?

    Just because they have the RIGHT to do it doesn't make it right. IMHO it's really not a good look, especially for a premium brand. Apple and Hermes don't start jacking up the prices in stores when their inventory runs low... The future is Rivian/Tesla/Lucid style. They may adjust prices up and...
  8. fullmetalbaal

    Scared to ask... anyone tempted by Model S Plaid?

    I think the point of comparison for a new Taycan is a new Model S. They both get 150-200 miles in 15-20 min. I'd call that even. (If you take the exact values, Tesla is technically ahead, but not enough to matter). I think the Raven Model X that my wife currently drives is actually already close...
  9. fullmetalbaal

    Scared to ask... anyone tempted by Model S Plaid?

    IMHO, at the end of the day, what matters is real world performance from a customer perspective, not some mile/kWh efficiency or kw charging metric. All of those of course impact real world, but the total package is what matters. So: (1) how far you can drive with the battery at 80% (daily, or...
  10. fullmetalbaal

    Taycan 4S vs 911 ?

    When I read "cannot tell that Taycan is shifting unless you really think about it" and "braking feels nearly identical" - I cannot disagree more. The Taycan brakes clearly behave differently from the 911, you can even tell whether it's the first few brakes without regen in the morning vs. the...
  11. fullmetalbaal

    Taycan Maintenance Schedule

    They are poorer than they were before :CWL:
  12. fullmetalbaal

    Taycan Maintenance Schedule

    +1. Tellingly, they used to always tell you exactly what service was due each year. "Spark plugs on year 3 will run you at least xK!". Now they don't seem to ever volunteer it. In my case, they pushed hard on the maintenance, and I kept asking: what is included? They kept being vague. Needless...
  13. fullmetalbaal

    hmmm - my lovely Taycan is limited to 220 miles range - [Edit] I think it's the tires…

    Good thing too, or Porsche would have a lot of dead vehicles in their lots.
  14. fullmetalbaal

    Taycan 4S vs 911 ?

    I recently sold an 911 GTS and went to a Taycan 4s. The Taycan has 4 doors. Everything else I want my 911 back.
  15. fullmetalbaal

    FINAL CHOOSE - 4S standard battery or good spec RWD with Performance Battery?

    Are you keeping the Macan or another car around for longer drives? If so, I would consider the small battery and 4S. Most people I know have the larger one, including myself. But if I could go back, I'd probably remove that option. Right now, the car is heavier than it needs to be, and that's...
  16. fullmetalbaal

    FINAL CHOOSE - 4S standard battery or good spec RWD with Performance Battery?

    +1 to buy the car for yourself and not for resale. Having said that, my understanding is that options don't retain as much value as a percentage than the car model itself. So if you're spending say 110K either way, the 4S will sell for more than a loaded RWD. In fact, some of that is even...
  17. fullmetalbaal

    I am watching the “sh*t show” that EA is live and in person

    The government can choose to make space available at rest places. Also, in many countries, there are essentially no public rest stops on highways with anything more than restrooms... any coffee/gas/EV-charging stops take you off the highway...where any company can buy land an place a charger...
  18. fullmetalbaal

    I am watching the “sh*t show” that EA is live and in person

    Wait, your position is that today's most successful charging network has no application whatsoever for large scale adoption? You realize that if one player has a substantial portion of the total market, the sharing WITHIN that market segment is enough to hit efficiency for that part of the...
  19. fullmetalbaal

    Taycan Charging Quick Reference [Profiles and Timers]

    You forgot: If: "car or charger is in that mood" Car will charge to: "who knows, usually not at all" I have not figure it it out despite hours troubleshooting. I think it's mostly the charger.
  20. fullmetalbaal

    I am watching the “sh*t show” that EA is live and in person

    This doesn't have to be "charging network or cars". These companies report BILLIONS in profit each year. They can totally afford reducing that by 10% for a few years to fund a charging network. They also spend hundreds of millions on ads each year - another area they could use to fund it. There...
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