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  1. Taycan Turbo / Turbo S CARB certified for 281.8 / 282.7 miles range

    While there is not a sure-fire formula to relate UDDS range to EPA range, here are 3 data points to help approximate it: Audi E-tron: 277 UDDS, 204 EPA 2017 Tesla Model S 100D: 450 UDDS, 335 EPA Tesla Model 3 LR AWD: 455 UDDS, 322 EPA Applying those ratios to the Taycan's 282 UDDS number would...
  2. 8 - 10 Weeks delay

    Careful there. Tesla is already selling more cars than Porsche - 255K vs. 202K thus far in 2019.
  3. Tesla Model S crushes Taycan’s Nürburgring time

    While the $35K Model 3 cannot be ordered through the website, it is available to order by speaking to a Tesla representative at one of the showrooms. It is not a mirage.
  4. Sales Price vs MSRP

    I'm glad the Porsche dealers are selling the Taycans at MSRP. A friend of mine had to pay $25K over to get the first Acura NSX in our area.
  5. 2020 Taycan 4S Revealed by Porsche!

    I was responding to @KensingtonPark who said "But you can get a 4S for ~$140K that is superior in many of the same ways to the Tesla Model S. Now that will make someone looking at a Model S say "hmm."". The fact is that relatively few buyers who are considering an $80,000 car are potential...
  6. 2020 Taycan 4S Revealed by Porsche!

    Performance-wise the 4S is comparable to the Model S Long Range which has a 0-60 time of 3.7 seconds, a tick faster than the 4S. It also has an EPA range of 370 miles. For a price of $80,000 with the only extra cost options being paint and interior colors and full self driving (base autopilot...
  7. Tesla Model S crushes Taycan’s Nürburgring time

    - The issue with Model S continuous performance was not battery overheating, it was motor temperature. Tesla moved to permanent magnet motors in the Model 3 and addressed that issue. It is likely that three of those same motors power the Plaid version of Model S - Are you familiar with Track...
  8. Tesla Model S crushes Taycan’s Nürburgring time

    So it was OK for Porsche to bait and switch for 4 years with the Mission e and its suicide doors, no mirrors, different profile, etc. but Tesla can't run a development mule for a car that is one year (not 4 years) away from production? Really?
  9. Tesla Model S crushes Taycan’s Nürburgring time

    The one consistent knock on the performance of Tesla's is that they can't do repeated full power runs or multiple laps around the track. Porsche used this as a major differentiator for the Taycan vs. Tesla Model S with 3 tests (or ego stunts if you prefer): Repeated 0-100-0 runs, the 'Ring lap...
  10. Oh my! Someone wasn’t lying!

    Tesla has been developing the 3 motor drivetrain for the upcoming Roadster 2. No doubt they have been using Model S mules for testing. The decision to take one of these mules to Laguna Seca and set a sedan lap record and send another car to the Ring was no doubt motivated by Porsche knocking...
  11. Tesla to bring Model S to Nürburgring to beat Porsche Taycan

    During the turmoil following the 420 tweet last year Musk names Jerome Guillen as President of Tesla Automotive. Jerome has had responsibility for all manufacturing and supply chain worldwide for about a year and it is obvious that things are running more smoothly in that area. He also is...
  12. Range

    Was everyone here aware that the “up to 450km” WLTP range being highlighted by Porsche is the City number? The Highway WLTP range is 381 km and using the standard ratio the Combined rating should be 417km...
  13. Range

    Sorry, I guess I was the only one who failed to grasp the context sensitive use of the ‘$’. My point was that Tesla has already made recent improvements in Model S in two of the areas you said they needed to address.
  14. Range

    It would be nice if people would use up to date information when criticizing: - The Model S Long Range Performance (FNA P100DL) now costs $100K, not $130K - The latest iteration of Model S has a new Adsptive Suspension with Sport Mode - It also uses one of the Model 3 SRPM motors which should...
  15. 2020 Taycan U.S. Pricing For Turbo and Turbo S

    Just to put some volume numbers into this discussion. Historically the P version of Model S has represented 5-6% of sales. That’s 2500-3000 per year worldwide. My 2012 P85 was about $110K. My 2015 P85D with Insane Mode was $130K. P100D with Ludicrous got close to $150K for a short time. But...
  16. MSRP Dealers (selling Taycan with no price mark-up)

    Porsche Steven Creek in Silicon Valley. My sales guy told me there would be no additional dealer markup.
  17. 0-90-0 Taycan run on an aircraft carrier deck

    0-90-0 mph in 10.7s Hit 90.58 MPH in 422 ft Listen closely to the soundtrack at around :45. Is that a shift at 60 mph that I hear?
  18. MSRP Dealers (selling Taycan with no price mark-up)

    My dealer told me the cars will be sold at MSRP
  19. Taycan real world Range

    I believe you are confusing profitability with cash flow. Tesla doesn't need to be profitable to grow its business. It just needs enough Operating Cash Flow to fund the capital expenditures it needs to grow the business. Let me explain. Part of the Profit and Loss calculation includes...
  20. Taycan real world Range

    While "the Model 3 was intended to be the car for the masses", don't pooh-pooh the the Performance version and especially Track Mode. Tesla did a lot of development work on Track Mode at Thunderhill Raceway in NorCal. (I know because my son's friend is a test driver for Tesla). Subsequently they...
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