5500km+ trip through europe / east europe

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Last week I did a round trip through europe, 2800km + each way. Sadly I can't seem to download trip data from the iphone app...

Decided to make this post to answer questions and post my experience if others are intrested in similar trip.

On the way to destination: Switzerland - Italy - Slovenia - Croatia - Hungary- Romania.
  • A lot of autobahn driving at 150-200km/h. Driving mode normal, with lowered chasis and sport plus suspension.
  • No problem charging, just a little issue with Ionity in croatia - 4 chargers listed as avaliable, but not actually delivering power. Very annoyed with how many apps there are, if you want any acceptable price per kwh. Overall, I have installed over 10 apps to charge; in actuallity used only 4 or 5.
  • Close to 0 price difference between switzerland and east europe. East europe has same charging prices as west europe, that is to say... high prices.
  • Actual range at 150-200km/h ended up being a little over 250km. So quite often recharging.
  • Annoyed with prosche charging subscription. Had it stopped, and re-started it just before the trip, and they decided to issue a new RFID card instead of re-using the one I already had. Was stuck looking for QR codes on machines for the app the whole trip.
  • 90% of EV charging infrastructure in east europe is not listed on porsche maps. For example in Romania, there are many 300-470kw chargers that are simply not listed. As soon as I crossed into hungary & romania, I had to use chargeprice / chargemap and other local apps to find chargers.
  • Tesla chargers not listed on porsche maps also.
  • Roads surprisingly good. No autobahn as smooth as germany however
  • Trip done with battery saving mode enabled (forgotten, since I charge mostly at home in switzerland). Could say it resulted in 1-2h of extra charging. 90-100% with this mode charges about 3 times faster than without.
On the way back: Romania - Hungary - Austria - Germany - Liechtenstein - Switzerland.
  • More of the same spirited driving (on average 180km/h on autobahns), a lot more mountain passes. Max speed around 230km/h.
  • Bad weather on the way back, 9-15 degrees. Lots of heavy rain. Lots of fog on the passes.
  • Ionity was biggest saver in terms of charging. With the porsche subscription it was the cheapest by far. 1 single charge pays for the subscripton in itself. At ionity average charging cost 23 chf with porsche sub. At shell or other providers, assuming you don't waste 30 minutes looking for the app witht the cheapest price and assuming the machine has actual QR codes to scan, its much closer to 50 chf per charge.
  • Trip done without battery saving mode; much faster charging until 70%; after that much slower than with battery saving mode.
Some pictures will follow.

  • 6 days of driving.
  • On average 900km /day
  • 9-11h of driving each day.
  • Avg consumption 28-29.7 kwh/100km.
  • 95% of charging was high speed charging of over 150kw/h.
  • waze has been of great help with cameras, road conditions and hazards.
After this driving session; max range showed by car is 312km. Driving through Switzerland at more "normal" speeds; it is actually higher, closer to 420km; but it will take a while for the guess-o-meter to re-calibrate I guess.
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We're planning on going in the same direction end of September, hopefully with the new Taycan then.

Could you share which Ionity chargers did not work in Croatia?

I'm planning on using one at Gospic and one at Smednik and that's Slovenia (which only has two chargers according to Ionity 🫣).
 
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We're planning on going in the same direction end of September, hopefully with the new Taycan then.

Could you share which Ionity chargers did not work in Croatia?

I'm planning on using one at Gospic and one at Smednik and that's Slovenia (which only has two chargers according to Ionity 🫣).
It was the Ionity charging station Okreti 1a.

I also had planned different ones, but due to spirited driving i rarely managed to make it to the planned ones.
 


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Great picture of your car in front of Hotel Belvedere!
 

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Annoyed with prosche charging subscription. Had it stopped, and re-started it just before the trip, and they decided to issue a new RFID card instead of re-using the one I already had. Was stuck looking for QR codes on machines for the app the whole trip.

I have tried the same and Porsche said this is the way they do it. They will not reuse or activate any older cards. So the monthly fee needs to be paid each month if you want to retain the card you have. For the service it brings it is expensive at 300 Euros per year. If you only charge at Ionity, even using just their credit card rate is cheaper than Porsche when you add the subscription fee!


  • 90% of EV charging infrastructure in east europe is not listed on porsche maps. For example in Romania, there are many 300-470kw chargers that are simply not listed. As soon as I crossed into hungary & romania, I had to use chargeprice / chargemap and other local apps to find chargers.
  • Tesla chargers not listed on porsche maps also.
The chargers that show up in the PCM are the chargers that Porsche Charging service have an agreement with. They are unlikely to ever get Tesla included, but perhaps the ones you found in eastern parts might be included in future.


But the issue about needing so many apps, dongles etc is the same all over Europe. WHY on earth they all had to come up with their idiotic scheme for payments, when we have a universal system with debit/credit cards beats me.
 
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Quick add, since i just did the math; charging was about 650 euros for the whole trip, with a few overpriced ones which were proprietary
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