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fellow Taycan owners:

I had a great light weight road trip this weekend and the car behaved marvelously (until after I got home - {sigh})

But I can report two pieces of news that confirms the Taycan’s range and quality of it’s range predictions.

Friday - drive from Santa Cruz, Ca to Winters, CA - stay over night - and then complete the drive to Thunderhill saturday morning.
This segment is approximatley 140 miles -and well with in the range of a Taycan - I charged in Vacaville, Ca so that I would not arrive at Thunderhill in low % SOC…
things went well and there were no problems - even EA charging worked for me -a 1st!!!

what I am really here to report is the single charge run all the way from Thunderhill (Willows, CA) to Aptos, CA on a single charge, leaving the racetrack at 92% SOC…
  • Posrche NAV estimated 6% battery for the trip upon arrival in Aptos, CA
  • I shaved 2-3 mph off the speed limit and ran in range mode the whole way
  • arrived home at 17% battery - and spent the last 1/2 of the trip at or slightly above posted limites (no more than 5 mph)
  • Innodrive most of the way - with mild accelerator
  • car achieved efficency of 3.22 miles/kWh - which is really good and inline with my 7 years experience with Tesla Model S
  • based on my actual observed usage a full charge would be about 270 miles - really really impressive
  • these numbers are compromised, because I didn’t leave thunderhill with 100% SOC - there were some spirited test drives provide to PCA members (all impressed with vehicle) and those shaved 8% from my charge and were not “efficient” test drives
    • therefore I think the vehicle could do even better if that 8% wasn’t consumed in the least efficient manner Porsche offers
check out these screen shots at the end of my trip - the efficiency of 31.8 kWh/100 miles “includes” the spirited test drivers from shortly before I left the racetrack!!

Properlly driven this vehicle can easily do 250-260 miles which is gratifying to me personally!

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It seems crazy that Porsche hasn't been able to revise the EPA test and get the numbers to be more realistic. The EPA rating of this car is beyond ridiculous. In normal conditions it's very close to the efficiency of a Model S which is the most comparable bench mark.

I would have to deliberately try to be inefficient to hit the EPA rating.
 

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Happy to hear you had a good trip! I too have seen around 3.2 miles/kWh highway cruising with my turbo and mission E wheels, which I’m extremely happy with. I have a set of turbo aero wheels with winter performance tires and I’m going to be interested to see how things change when those go on. In fact, I’m hoping there won’t be a whole lot of change—improved aerodynamics versus temperature decrease, but we’ll see. Obviously it will be temperature dependent but interesting regardless.
 

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It seems crazy that Porsche hasn't been able to revise the EPA test and get the numbers to be more realistic. The EPA rating of this car is beyond ridiculous. In normal conditions it's very close to the efficiency of a Model S which is the most comparable bench mark.
My MS90D is around 25 kWh/100km my Taycan around 21 kWh/100km - easily 10% better based on BC reading.

The problem is not with Porsche, the problem is with the EPA which just publish any number handed in.

I would have to deliberately try to be inefficient to hit the EPA rating.
I also wonder, maybe launch control on every traffic light?
 

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I also wonder, maybe launch control on every traffic light?
And on the free road, if there is nobody behind. "Stop and go", the new way ;-)!
 

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Were you using the 93kwh model or the 79kwh?
 
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93 kwh model
 

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So far my Taycan 4S has exactly the same efficiency as my Tesla model S P85D used to. All trips are done at 73 mph on speedometer, range mode. Will see how it behaves at colder temps.

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@svp6 this is awesome data - please continue to share.
 
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NOTE: for this thread - I have the mission-e wheels and all season tires - but the mission-e wheels I believe are the least efficient in the set of choices - so my experience should represent a ”base” with other Taycan‘s with different wheel choices able to do better.
 

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Added another datapoint today - since we dipped below 50. I think the heat pump will make the Taycan more efficient in winter - but need many more datapoints at lower temps. Also noted that I did not update the graph with the most recent trip to Chicago - couple of 200 miles stretches there - all with ~20 mph side-wind.

The other news is that for the first time the estimated battery size drops below 90 for me - at 86.3 KWh. Estimated range at 48F: 261 miles.

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Things are much more favorable to Taycan when you plot the estimated range - obviously much higher given the larger battery size

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Santa Cruz to Thunderhill. Thanks for the nostalgic flashback. That’s all.
 

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fellow Taycan owners:

I had a great light weight road trip this weekend and the car behaved marvelously (until after I got home - {sigh})

But I can report two pieces of news that confirms the Taycan’s range and quality of it’s range predictions.

Friday - drive from Santa Cruz, Ca to Winters, CA - stay over night - and then complete the drive to Thunderhill saturday morning.
This segment is approximatley 140 miles -and well with in the range of a Taycan - I charged in Vacaville, Ca so that I would not arrive at Thunderhill in low % SOC…
things went well and there were no problems - even EA charging worked for me -a 1st!!!

what I am really here to report is the single charge run all the way from Thunderhill (Willows, CA) to Aptos, CA on a single charge, leaving the racetrack at 92% SOC…
  • Posrche NAV estimated 6% battery for the trip upon arrival in Aptos, CA
  • I shaved 2-3 mph off the speed limit and ran in range mode the whole way
  • arrived home at 17% battery - and spent the last 1/2 of the trip at or slightly above posted limites (no more than 5 mph)
  • Innodrive most of the way - with mild accelerator
  • car achieved efficency of 3.22 miles/kWh - which is really good and inline with my 7 years experience with Tesla Model S
  • based on my actual observed usage a full charge would be about 270 miles - really really impressive
  • these numbers are compromised, because I didn’t leave thunderhill with 100% SOC - there were some spirited test drives provide to PCA members (all impressed with vehicle) and those shaved 8% from my charge and were not “efficient” test drives
    • therefore I think the vehicle could do even better if that 8% wasn’t consumed in the least efficient manner Porsche offers
check out these screen shots at the end of my trip - the efficiency of 31.8 kWh/100 miles “includes” the spirited test drivers from shortly before I left the racetrack!!

Properlly driven this vehicle can easily do 250-260 miles which is gratifying to me personally!

7C019071-9C10-4106-8200-EF1D5C2C5AA3.jpeg


C465A7DF-04EF-4F24-835D-CD774D338D67.png
Your numbers are consistent with what I have experienced. at the current state of my car’s “learning” (1,000 miles) The range predicted is fairly accurate in Normal mode. My trip tests indicate that Range mode (using cruise control) gains an additional 13% in distance over what the Taycan is predicting at the beginning. Useful to know for long trips between chargers.
 

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I've read a few articles about 200 miles plus range and your post is interesting. I'm not even getting 190 miles. I'm getting 50 kwh per 100 miles at 60 mph in range mode. No where near your 31.8.

What does yours indicate when full? Mine shows 188 miles. Its the 79kwh battery if that makes any difference.
Thanks

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Your numbers are consistent with what I have experienced. at the current state of my car’s “learning” (1,000 miles) The range predicted is fairly accurate in Normal mode. My trip tests indicate that Range mode (using cruise control) gains an additional 13% in distance over what the Taycan is predicting at the beginning. Useful to know for long trips between chargers.
 
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79 kW battery is going to be about 15-20% less - 250 miles will become less than 200 mile
 

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