Anyone happy with the standard sound system?

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Other cars are 'OK' - why aren't you buying them?
I'm not sure what direction you want to force this discussion into...
We're talking Bose here and whether it's ok or not.
I think it is.
End of story.
Your choice is different, that's perfectly ok.
Ok? :)
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I'm not sure what direction you want to force this discussion into...
We're talking Bose here and whether it's ok or not.
I think it is.
End of story.
Your choice is different, that's perfectly ok.
Ok? :)
Absolutely. Actually sat in a demo just now and heard the Bose and it's very good. ;)
 
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I tried the Burmester and it thought it was fine but not mind blowing. Car stereo is different from home stereo was my conclusion.
 

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My high frequency hearing consists of loud ringing in both ears. Midrange clarity and bass are important to me. My wife hears highs just fine - we ordered the Burmester.
 

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If you're looking for better audio quality you should also spec the Insulated Glass option. There is still a decent amount of tire noise at highway speeds and I'd spec Insulated Glass before jumping to Burmeister (and I'd always spec it if I got Burmeister).
 


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If you're looking for better audio quality you should also spec the Insulated Glass option. There is still a decent amount of tire noise at highway speeds and I'd spec Insulated Glass before jumping to Burmeister (and I'd always spec it if I got Burmeister).
Fully agree with this!

I have Bose which I think is fine. Burmester is probably a lot better yes if you really need high end audio but Bose will do fine.

However, I don't have the insulated glass option and it is in fact the only option I have regrets about. The tire & wind noise without the special glass is *significant* (slightly louder than in my combustion engine Audi A7) which kind of ruins the electric quietness experience. Not only that music also sounds better if there is less noise.

For example when the car is parked I really like the Bose. When on the highway it's closer to basic car stereo, the noise affects it so much. This is just my opinion.

So as a Taycan owner I can tell you the insulated glass is indeed a 10x more important option than Burmester. Of course you can get both too if you like. Just good to know.
 

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I am approaching the end of my obsession with details over my spec but I keep coming back to the sound system.

A lot of people keep saying you can't spec a Porsche with a standard sound system but since the subwoofer takes so much space in the small storage compartment in the back, I am skeptical towards upgrading. In addition, road noise and rough tarmac makes any music listening in the car not really worth it.

I have tried the Burmester and it sounded nice but my home stereo sounds better, ironically, since it's much cheaper. It still didn't punch through the noise from the tarmac with the 21" wheels and it didn't seem worth it.

I am coming from an Audi A4 which has been upgraded from passive speakers to "Audi Sound System", it's ok but doesn't move any mountains, so even the standard sound system might be an upgrade compared to what I have now.

So, is there anyone who has been content with the standard sound system over the Bose sound system? The Burmester is out of the question due to price.
The Bose System is a perfect companion to the interior, with remarkable clarity. If you have the budget, I would recommend spending it on PDCC, Adaptive cruise control and the Passenger Display.

Happy shopping :)
 


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I have the Standard Audio System.

The Taycan is my first porsche ever. I couldn't believe that a luxury brand vehicle would have such terrible base audio system.

In my opinion (although I'm not an audiophile), the highs and mids are the only thing that I can hear with the base system. After long discussions with my local/reputable, stereo shop, we're going to start with adding in lows, and expand our way from there to see where needs improving.

I'm adding a JL Amp and 10" slim box subwoofer in my trunk. It'll be mounted to the side wall and only remove 5" of space.

Not sure if anyone else has experience in swapping out the individual speakers. That would be helpful.
 

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Having now lived with the Bose a while, I think it’s extraordinarily average. Not awful, not great, just meh.

I’ve heard the Burmester and think it’s above average but not exceptional. I get why people would spec it, but it seemed like a pricey option for the delta.

Standard radios are below average in all Porsches unless your just going to be listening to talk radio.
 

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This is a good topic/question.

I quite like good audio. I spend hundreds on a single aftermarket cable for my in ear monitors, which themselves cost upwards of £600. I have a high end DAC.

I like a good home stereo system.

But I also know sound systems are much like a road bike. You can spend £4k and get something obscenely good. You can spend £10k and get something that weighs 1KG lighter and might have some performance difference depending on the person. It is otherwise totally unneccessary.

That is my attitude to sound systems. I buy within reason, but I will spend the money.

Then we have the Taycan with the Bose and the Burmester. I rank the latter as one of the more bemusing "upgrades". It is aimed squarely at those with no budget and thus have the mantra of more expensive = better.

The point is, would I ever buy Bose headphones?

No, because there are superior products made by other brands.

Would I ever buy a Bose home system?

No, because there are superior products made by other brands.

Bose makes "good" products. You spec it for your Taycan and you get a good car stereo system.

Now Burmester. I have never heard of it until speccing my Taycan. Would I buy Burmester products for the home?

No. For the same reasons as why I wouldn't buy Bose.

Would it make any noticeable difference to my audio enjoyment in my Taycan where I stream music at an average 325kbs, so it is already compressed audio, and I am speccing the insulated glass?

No.

I would spec any multitude of the performance options above the Burmester sound system. Where money is no limit, then sure, go for it. It's called good marketing and you just fell for it.

I am sure you will notice it when listening to the radio or your lossy streamed music...

Bose will be more than enough even for audiophiles. You aren't in your Taycan cabin for the theatre of your music.
 
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Just FYI I went from the base sound system in my 4S to Bose in my GTS. The difference is enormous and in itself almost justified buying the new car ;-)! Particularly the bass is not missing anymore.
 

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Would I ever buy a Bose home system?
No, because there are superior products made by other brands.
Bose makes "good" products. You spec it for your Taycan and you get a good car stereo system.

Now Burmester. I have never heard of it until speccing my Taycan. Would I buy Burmester products for the home?
No. For the same reasons as why I wouldn't buy Bose.
would you mind saying which Burmester *home* products you have tested and what you didn't like? and which products you consider "superior" and why? it's good to learn from others' experiences
 

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would you mind saying which Burmester *home* products you have tested and what you didn't like? and which products you consider "superior" and why? it's good to learn from others' experiences
I think you misunderstand my point. You could choose from any Burmester, Marantz, Cambridge Audio, Naim, Chord, Rega, Roksan, etc amplifier equipment and you probably couldn't tell the difference in sound quality between the same class of product.

Or it is quite likely one of those brands will have a better product at a lower price point. You can then spend more money on speakers, or other audio accessories.

Now think optioning your Taycan...

Moreover, Burmester - at least in the UK - is not known as a go-to home audio product provider. A Google search for the brand also reveals something telling: it seems to specialise in car audio or at least that seems to be what it's known for.

I can't speak on behalf of the continent because I've never lived there long enough to know nor research something so inane.

Bose I liken to the Johnnie Walker (whisky) brand of audio. It's doesn't exist for the enthusiast. It's there to provide trusted quality without needing to think nor do extensive research on alternatives. You are guaranteed very good audio quality, where the metephor of Johnnie Walker provides those who know nothing about whisky a very good drink.

Granted you only get two choices with the Taycan: Bose and Burmester.

But does Burmester provide £3,000 better audio quality than the Bose? In a car? With road noise?

That would make a huge difference in audio quality for a home system, but in a car?

Hence, if you have an unlimited budget, then get it. For most people, it is a waste of money for such a massive difference in price.

I will stress, it's a car, and the cabin is not optimised for audio fidelity - it's optimised for driving and human comfort.

The Bose system provides a more sensible price vs performance dynamic. If Burmester was only £1k more then that dynamic might change.

As it is - and as someone who works in marketing - Porsche are once again being very smart in price perception.
 

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