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Basically, you can't change the laws of physics and you can't travel faster than the speed of light (no matter how long we might all want to live long and prosper!).

If, as we believe, the Connect servers are centralised in Germany then we aren't really talking about a "cloud based" service in the true sense. Any company worth its salt would know to build a resilient cloud based solution by deploying (and mirroring / replicating) for example on Azure (Microsoft Cloud Services) or AWS (Amazon Web Services) and yes there are other choices out there. Truth is we don't have that insight to know exactly what architecture Porsche are currently using or plan to use in the future.

Hopefully, the architecture is such that it will be mirrored / replicated / follows the sun across the globe so that we might all benefit from a more resilient, stable and reliable core service. This will help to reduce our perception of latency in the end to end service.

Of course, this in itself won't cure all of our moans and groans as the "last mile" connection here is dependent on the OTA (via LTE) service on the vehicle itself. So depending on cell / mobile reception and wake up time of the vehicle (I assume there is one otherwise the 12v battery could die for all of us) I don't think we are ever going to see spectacular end to end connectivity.

The current architecture is arguably weak / best it can be just now and we just have to live with it until something better comes along.
Completely agree with Adrian regarding the Laws of Physics, the round trip time for the transactions will be longer the further away you are from servers, that said there are a number of "best practises" to minimise the network latency, these can help but don't eliminate the delay.

I suspect one of the drivers to have the "servers" located in Germany could be related to Data Protection rules across Europe, Germany provides the strongest regulation in this space, which means if you are compliant in Germany, you are covered for the rest of the world.

Of cause this doesn't help when the car is located thousands of miles away, an alternative is to use the WiFi hotspot within the car itself. You need to stand close to the car to connect to the WiFi, this will then allow you to manage features of the vehicle, from my experience it removes the need for the App to connect to the Porsche backend Infrastructure and therefore connects a lot faster.

I plan to test a WiFi extender device to see if I can increase the range of the onboard hotspot, what I am not clear on is a) how far I can extend the network and b) how it will react when the WiFi network disappears as the car leaves and then returns.

I will update the thread after testing.
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I am Confused… Will we see Taycan CROSS Turismo in Summer, 2021 or Late 2022 ??



Per Porsche Newsroom….

Expect the World Premiere of the all-new Taycan Cross Turismo to take place in less than eight weeks. In dealerships as early as this summer






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It is my understanding that the Taycan Cross Turismo (which yes is officially coming and should be released later this year, with production slated for late 2022)
Yes, release is supposed to be this year slated for MY22 builds.
 
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Thanks for responding. As for this comment about a Macan e-hybrid (not that it matters, because apparently Car and Driver heard from Porsche that it won't be coming due to battery-pack size): my Panamera 4 E-Hybrid has 461 hp and 516 lb-ft of torque, as does the Cayenne E-Hybrid -- both with V6 engines. Because V6 engines are also used in the Macan, I see no reason why they couldn't put *more than* 461 hp and 516 lb-ft of torque into a Macan E-Hybrid because it's a lighter vehicle (smaller size). And trust me, my Panamera 4 E-Hybrid is much faster and more fun than a Panamera 4S (with more hp and torque), and it approaches the Panamera (ICE-only, V8) Turbo in power and torque. A Macan e-hybrid would be an absolute homerun. I would wager that a Macan e-hybrid would be faster and more fun to drive than a Macan GTS or Turbo.

And, as for Sport Turismo Panameras being rare in the US, yes, that's sadly true. I'm a wagon fanatic and love my Panamera Sport Turismo (much better than my previous Panamera sedan); it has more space, better rear-window visibility, and it looks better (in my opinion). That's also why I'm waiting for the Taycan Cross Turismo. But in Europe, I understand that the Sport Turismo sells very well, and half of all Panameras sold in Europe are E-Hybrids. Thank goodness for European "good taste", or we wouldn't have these options in the US! :)
I was assuming they'd probably do a Macan E-Hybrid with the 4-cylinder instead of the V6 if they did one given the space.

To your point, yes a Macan E-Hybrid probably would be faster than a Panamera E-Hybrid or a Cayenne E-Hybrid if it was able to have enough space with the V6 engine in it to have a hybrid system...

Then again, I just don't think Macan E-Hybrid makes much sense - just do full EV it'll be more fun!
 
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Hi Luke

ONE more question

HOW soon after Porsche debuts a new model (for the USA for example) can I option out/configure/build and submit to my Client Advisor

Does the Dealer receive an official allocation (or allocations) instantaneously upon the unveiling of a new model?

I am eagerly awaiting the debut of the Taycan Cross Turismo and want to put in my order ASAP upon its' official introduction by Porsche

Thanks Luke !!
In response to your questions:

ONE more question

HOW soon after Porsche debuts a new model (for the USA for example) can I option out/configure/build and submit to my Client Advisor

Usually 2-4 months.

Does the Dealer receive an official allocation (or allocations) instantaneously upon the unveiling of a new model?

No, we typically will start to receive allocations after the configurator goes live in the US but not always for example we just started receiving RWD Taycan allocations this month even though the configurator went live in November in the US.

I am eagerly awaiting the debut of the Taycan Cross Turismo and want to put in my order ASAP upon its' official introduction by Porsche

Hope it comes soon!
 

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Hi Luke, thanks for taking the time to do this!

Has there been any discussion/rumors about Porsche bringing back some physical buttons for HVAC controls on the Taycan's center console screen? e.g. something similar to the Panamera's or Cayanne's setup?

We're in the market for an EV and test drove a Taycan Turbo yesterday. It was an absolutely amazing experience. The only let down was that I noticed how I kept taking my eyes off the road to change the temperature and fumbling with the flat touchscreen. I'm not sure if this is a common complaint among Taycan owners, but I do wonder if Porsche is aware of this and if they have any plans to address it in perhaps the MY22 or beyond?
 


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Hi Luke, thanks for taking the time to do this!

Has there been any discussion/rumors about Porsche bringing back some physical buttons for HVAC controls on the Taycan's center console screen? e.g. something similar to the Panamera's or Cayanne's setup?

We're in the market for an EV and test drove a Taycan Turbo yesterday. It was an absolutely amazing experience. The only let down was that I noticed how I kept taking my eyes off the road to change the temperature and fumbling with the flat touchscreen. I'm not sure if this is a common complaint among Taycan owners, but I do wonder if Porsche is aware of this and if they have any plans to address it in perhaps the MY22 or beyond?
how often are you really going to fiddle with the HVAC settings? for the most part I rarely have to change it and if I do it is usually a small adjustment and that's it. if that is your only concern then just buy the car, you'll adjust. I came from a tesla model 3, after the intensive moves needed to adjust that car's HVAC, this is a breeze
 

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Hi Luke, thanks for taking the time to do this!

Has there been any discussion/rumors about Porsche bringing back some physical buttons for HVAC controls on the Taycan's center console screen? e.g. something similar to the Panamera's or Cayanne's setup?

We're in the market for an EV and test drove a Taycan Turbo yesterday. It was an absolutely amazing experience. The only let down was that I noticed how I kept taking my eyes off the road to change the temperature and fumbling with the flat touchscreen. I'm not sure if this is a common complaint among Taycan owners, but I do wonder if Porsche is aware of this and if they have any plans to address it in perhaps the MY22 or beyond?
Most things can be adjusted by voice commands
 


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Hi Luke, thanks for taking the time to do this!

Has there been any discussion/rumors about Porsche bringing back some physical buttons for HVAC controls on the Taycan's center console screen? e.g. something similar to the Panamera's or Cayanne's setup?

We're in the market for an EV and test drove a Taycan Turbo yesterday. It was an absolutely amazing experience. The only let down was that I noticed how I kept taking my eyes off the road to change the temperature and fumbling with the flat touchscreen. I'm not sure if this is a common complaint among Taycan owners, but I do wonder if Porsche is aware of this and if they have any plans to address it in perhaps the MY22 or beyond?
I think most manufacturers are going to be fixated on touch screen and voice technology moving forward in vehicles. The way of the button seems to be a bygone era nowadays in vehicles.

I really do enjoy the Taycan Touchscreen, I think it is one of the better touch screen implementations for HVAC controls out there. That being said, I adjust my temperature in a Taycan about 90% of the time via voice comands. I just say "Hey Porsche - I'm a little hot" and she adjust it for me, must safer even than having a button/knob in my opinion.

Porsche also always keeps the same model design for 8 years with a mid-cycle refresh every 4 years. Mid-cycle refresh is typically just slight interior and exterior design tweaks. It could be possible in 2024 they add back in some buttons, but I highly highly doubt it.

Hope this helps! Give it another try with the voice commands and see if that changes things for you.
 
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how often are you really going to fiddle with the HVAC settings? for the most part I rarely have to change it and if I do it is usually a small adjustment and that's it. if that is your only concern then just buy the car, you'll adjust. I came from a tesla model 3, after the intensive moves needed to adjust that car's HVAC, this is a breeze
Did you get Coffee Beige Metallic? How do you like it so far?
 

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New 21 4S owner.

First question - interior ambient lighting - When will the color choices be expanded? Need Purple and Gold. :)
 

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Hi I just took delivery of my Taycan turbo with Sports Chrono in Brisbane Australia and the ride height is very high.

The only options available are lift and medium in the settings.
Setting the height two different modes does not change the stationary height of the vehicle.
When travelling above 100km/h in Range Mode the car does lower and the option Lower mode appears and then disappears when you slow down.
This is the same for all of the demo vehicles here that we have checked.
Every other region as well as the owners manual shows the four driving modes that should be able to be selected however they are missing.

Does it take time for the suspension to adjust? then these options become available? Has anyone come across this before?
 

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Hi Luke, thanks for taking the time to do this!

Has there been any discussion/rumors about Porsche bringing back some physical buttons for HVAC controls on the Taycan's center console screen? e.g. something similar to the Panamera's or Cayanne's setup?

We're in the market for an EV and test drove a Taycan Turbo yesterday. It was an absolutely amazing experience. The only let down was that I noticed how I kept taking my eyes off the road to change the temperature and fumbling with the flat touchscreen. I'm not sure if this is a common complaint among Taycan owners, but I do wonder if Porsche is aware of this and if they have any plans to address it in perhaps the MY22 or beyond?
If you want Taycan drive train but a few buttons, like temp, check out the eTron GT. They seem to be in a good middle ground.
 

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When will Taycan Turbo Cross Turismo allocations be given out? I'm waiting for my dealership to get one but they're not sure when it's coming. Any clues as to when they Cross Turismo Turbo is supposed to hit the floors in the US?
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