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I've had the red "Driver Control Required" warning appear 3 or 4 times. I have ACC but it wasn't engaged at the time and I do not have the Innodrive option. Once it happened when I had one hand on the wheel but the other times I was using both hands. Once it occurred when approaching the yellow lines marking a virtual protective "island" for a left turn lane but I was nowhere near going over the lines.

In general, it seems pretty random. I've tried to reproduce the warning by purposely crossing certain lines on the street but have been unable to do so and I'm not willing to try anything too silly to see if I can make it happen..... "Uh, yes officer, I know I ran into that impact barrel but, in my defense, I was trying to activate the "Driver Control Required" warning in my instrument cluster!"
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The basic lane keep assist will make this warning prompt at 40mph+ - no ACC etc. Not yet disabled it yet to see what happens.

I think this is an "enhancement" post the recent round of WMA updates.
 

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The basic lane keep assist will make this warning prompt at 40mph+ - no ACC etc. Not yet disabled it yet to see what happens.

I think this is an "enhancement" post the recent round of WMA updates.
I confirm that. I have neither ACC nor Innodrive. I only have basic Lane Keep Assist. Today I enabled it for the first time in 7 months and guess what. The "Driver Control Required" warning came up for the first time once I let the steering wheel (on purpose to test LKA) and the car drifted towards the right of the lane. I did the same test with LKA disabled and the warning does not come up.
The warning is definitely a function of LKA but I am not sure if it detects hands on the wheel or the fact that the car is drifting out of the center of the kane.
 

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It will sense both (or one) hand is not on the wheel, will correct steering to keep within the white lines, make a growl should you cross, issue a warning to stay in the middle of the lane, if you indicate to turn or pull out it will temporarily disable the function to complete the manoeuvre and finally sensitivity can be adjusted.
 

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I confirm that. I have neither ACC nor Innodrive. I only have basic Lane Keep Assist. Today I enabled it for the first time in 7 months and guess what. The "Driver Control Required" warning came up for the first time once I let the steering wheel (on purpose to test LKA) and the car drifted towards the right of the lane. I did the same test with LKA disabled and the warning does not come up.
The warning is definitely a function of LKA but I am not sure if it detects hands on the wheel or the fact that the car is drifting out of the center of the kane.
This is correct. I have LKA turned off because it freaks out at fan-outs before tollbooths, which I go through every day. I've never gotten this message when Innodrive was off. I have it set with LKA off & Active Lane Keep on so it will still steer on Innodrive.
 

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Well after 2 weeks the dealership has determined that this issue is working “as designed” but admitted it was designed terribly. Their solution was to disable passive lane keep assist which I thought the innodrive wand did but evidently not.
So now passive LKA is off but I can still turn on active plus acc and innodrive with the wand.

I’m still pretty shocked that Porsche designed a system, then changed it without informing drivers to brake the car if you drive too long in a straight line. Terrible design.
 
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Regardless of the active/enabled driver assist features, the driver attention warnings begin after the steering system does not detect sufficient driver input after a time interval. I believe the sequence is this:
1st warning - red steering wheel icon at bottom of instrument cluster
2nd warning - Driver Control Required message
3rd warning - brief application of the brakes ?
4th warning - sustained application of the brakes

I've never gotten to that 3rd warning, but I have seen the 2nd warning. A quick blip of the wheel always suffices for me. But this is annoying.

I wonder if there is a calibration here - some cars may be more sensitive to steering input (thus fewer driver annoyances) and others less so (more driver annoyances and ultimately brake application).
I've experienced all 4 warnings. I was really hoping the recall would have gotten rid of this. It's jarring to have happen. My drive to work is often long and straight and it happens without warning and regardless of having LKA on or not (or ACC for that matter--I don't have Innodrive). The time I hit that 4th warning I was right in front of our dealership and I almost took it right in for them to look at. I was in a 50 mph zone in heavy traffic and it slowed me down at least 20 mph. I was able to signal and move to the right lane but it really threw me for a loop.
 

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I've experienced all 4 warnings. I was really hoping the recall would have gotten rid of this. It's jarring to have happen. My drive to work is often long and straight and it happens without warning and regardless of having LKA on or not (or ACC for that matter--I don't have Innodrive). The time I hit that 4th warning I was right in front of our dealership and I almost took it right in for them to look at. I was in a 50 mph zone in heavy traffic and it slowed me down at least 20 mph. I was able to signal and move to the right lane but it really threw me for a loop.
My dealer continues to dodge me on this issue and shift blame. First they said that I was probably driving incorrectly, then turned off Passive Lane Keep Assist, but the problem keeps arising. And its clearly not the 3 steps to getting the user attention, its straight to red warning and braking.
 

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I had this a few times during my first week of ownership and turned off the two checkbox options under "basic driver assistance". It hasn't happened since.

FWIW, this happens also in my wife's Volvo XC90, but it's significantly more alarming and that can't be turned off. Automation is far from perfect.
 
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This only seems to happen to me when I'm driving down a long, straight street (which I do daily--my commute involves a 3-4 mile long straight route). I am not using ACC or innodrive (although it has occurred when using ACC). What I've been doing lately so it doesn't pop up is to steer a little to the left and right so the car realizes I have my hands on the wheel.
 

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This only seems to happen to me when I'm driving down a long, straight street (which I do daily--my commute involves a 3-4 mile long straight route). I am not using ACC or innodrive (although it has occurred when using ACC). What I've been doing lately so it doesn't pop up is to steer a little to the left and right so the car realizes I have my hands on the wheel.
I will sometimes get the “Drive in the middle of the lane” message. I just think the car is being a bit judgy on driving style!!
 
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