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Great looking updates. I’m not sure why some are so salty about the changes…they’re all great in my eyes and represent what is needed for Porsche to be competitive with the Taycan in 2024/2025.

I can’t wait for a few more details but this release a few bits of info day by day seems to be Porsche PR style these days.
I translate "salty" to equate to pragmatic realism with a healthy dose of cynicism for motoring journalism. I suspect those guys also perform the WLTP measurements.

We need a tech change in the battery department to really shift the dial and so we must wait until 2027 for that to materialise where at which point it won't be a Taycan facelift but a brand new design.
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The test is here:

1- I hope that we get the new instruments cluster as an update on our Taycans. (it looks the same that the one on the Macan)

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2- a quick math: at 35% the displayed range is 91mi which is 260 mi (418 km) full range according the guess-o-meter. That's probably the range when it is driven like a Porsche (I am guessing that they were not testing it very gently during the 2300+ mi shown on the dashboard)
Still way better than this gen. A nice highway trip at 70-80 only nets 225 max for me
 

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"Within the left-side gauge cluster pod where the state of charge is visible, Porsche has added an indicator showing the maximum possible kilowatt charging rate, which increases as the battery's state of charge declines."
This will be such a cruel tease in northern New England, with the display reading >300kW as I pull up to a typical 50kW, 62kW, or derated EA 350kW.
 

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That Car magazine article says that, from driving the facelifted Turbo S,
"my finely calibrated bum dyno is confident the new car is even quicker. The upgrade is thought to stop short of a twin-motor rear-axle set-up, as featured on some rivals, but the Turbo S combines increased urge..." &
"...what feels like the best part of 1000bhp..."
I suppose that 501bhp would be enough to satisfy the latter, but I'm guessing there'll be at least enough to match the current Launch-only max outputs.
 


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Good progress. And 3-4 years later, will be even better. The v2. Such is life. I am happy about the future of electric. Need lighter non lithium ion batteries. 5 minute charge time. And there we go.
 

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With Macan EV covering all the basics including some of the features available as standard, MY25 Taycan has to do better. I am though anticipating MY25 RWD Taycan to get even closer to $100k here in the US as Porsche would like to see P911.DE investors happy. Will be interesting to see what this means to existing models especially the range and how an even pricier Taycan is viewed by future buyers when comparing with Lucid.
 

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Good progress. And 3-4 years later, will be even better. The v2. Such is life. I am happy about the future of electric. Need lighter non lithium ion batteries. 5 minute charge time. And there we go.
I've not read a lot of the blurb, but I haven't seen anything about weight.....
Does the bigger battery / extra range come at the expense of it being even heavier?
 


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That is an excellent question. Hopefully the extra battery weight has been at least partially compensated by reduced other components’ mass. However, the Macan’s weight has not (best of my memory) yet been shared so even if we get the Tycan’s reveal next Wednesday as many expect, we might not get an answer to this important issue.
 

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Curb weight is in the technical data section on the configurator:
  • Taycan Turbo 5119 lbs
  • Macan EV Turbo 5393 lbs.
I’m a little surprised at people placing orders without seeing or driving the Macan. I google, but it doesn’t seem like anyone has made any real video of an actual test drive other than focusing on range. I think nothing is known about how the Macan EV actually drives and feels. And of course, months of spinning and wringing of hands on this site about what really is the content of the Taycan refresh will hopefully come to and end with some factual information, perhaps next week.

The slowly creeping reveal of both vehicles does make for a fun little drama!
 

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I've not read a lot of the blurb, but I haven't seen anything about weight.....
Does the bigger battery / extra range come at the expense of it being even heavier?
95% of the available capacity is used so the BMS is using less. That's around half of the current Taycan. Add on top a larger capacity 100kWh gross battery. Not sure on additional weight but there will be a little. More efficient motors too which could mean lighter.
 

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Range improvement seems to be primarily due to the bigger battery. Charing speeds are crazy. I hope they keep the option to charge slower (and safer). I really like that I can choose for a quick charge if I just need a bit or are in a rush versus a bit slower but flatter curve for longer stops.
The increased charging speed is also primarily due to the bigger battery. There is more cells to distribute the power to so it will be able to take in more power. Same way as the charging speed on the current model is lower on the small battery version. So the actual stress of the battery cells are probably the same as in the outgoing model.
 

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Wow, the new Taycan is really shaping up to be quite a beast.

The range has always been the Taycan’s Achilles heel (that and software), so going from just passable range to great range is just what it needed.
 

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Stupid question, I have the propulsion.
I think the software will not be updated for the first taycan but could the battery be replaced by the new battery of the taycan 2?
 

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Stupid question, I have the propulsion.
I think the software will not be updated for the first taycan but could the battery be replaced by the new battery of the taycan 2?
Even if it could, the cost of battery plus labour would likely make it pointless
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