Good video on Taycan road trip efficiency - by Out of Spec

[Scandinavian]

Out of Spec just made a video about Taycan charging and efficiency.

15 minutes charging time from 10% and the driving at 80 mph, back down to 10%. Great result. And amazing charging speeds!

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[SteveGTS]

Tried watching this I find him a little bit irritating but the walking back and forth with the camera actually made me feel nauseous. Can’t fault his enthusiasm though

 

[caslca]

I used to watch him before. Stopped about a year ago after he just parroted numbers from manufacturers as facts, e.g. claiming repeatedly that T-ModelS is better than the rest of the crop since it can do <2s 0-60 (false) or that it can achieve 390mi range (hahaha). If you don't bother doing the research for me, why am I watching your video??

 

[Derip88]

Tried watching this I find him a little bit irritating but the walking back and forth with the camera actually made me feel nauseous. Can’t fault his enthusiasm though

I was going to post the same thing.
Don’t like his vids. He tries hard, but they are awful to watch and always extremely long

 

[Hanny]

Regardless of opinions about the guy……. found it interesting with what the Taycan can do with speed of charging and how well it’s does with the range, quite informative.

 

[Raphie]

That’s his GF’s car no? The guy is a redundant poser IMHO.

 

[DJ-UK]

Like this video and his others. Only watched his Taycan vids, but he focuses on the facts rather then book numbers as this video illustrates. Like this new test. Thanks OP.

 

[CarbonTax]

truncated the video to 3 minutes - taycan bias confirmed, haha

 

[f1eng]

The Taycan has been sufficiently good for me not to worry about but I did a trip to a hotel near Hampton Court where a friend was staying a couple of days ago.
My normal route had a lot of floods going so I went a bit further on motorway coming back. Going the traffic was heavy coming home pretty quiet.
Going was 65 miles at an average of 39mph and 2.6 l/kWh whereas coming home was 66 miles at 51mph average an 2.1 m/kWh.
The roads were very wet so a lot of pumping losses.
The navigation was predicting arriving with 41% charge which steadily updated to 36% as we travelled. So altogether a 64% of the battery used for 131 miles, equivalent to 205 miles on a charge or, practically, not going below 10% about 185 miles of usable range.
All charging at home but a big difference in efficiency going quicker.

 

[Scandinavian]

truncated the video to 3 minutes - taycan bias confirmed, haha

Yes he likes the Taycan. He has done several videos on Taycan on German Autobahn etc.

I can agree that his videos are far too long most of the time. The interesting thing will be when he has tested a few more EV’s in such tests. Start at 10%, charge for 15 minutes and back to 10 % at a constant 80 mph. That will give a comparison of real world range under similar conditions. Forroad tripping and doing a quick 15 minutes charge will have enough time for a coffee and washroom visit!

 

[f1eng]

Yes he likes the Taycan. He has done several videos on Taycan on German Autobahn etc.

I can agree that his videos are far too long most of the time. The interesting thing will be when he has tested a few more EV’s in such tests. Start at 10%, charge for 15 minutes and back to 10 % at a constant 80 mph. That will give a comparison of real world range under similar conditions. Forroad tripping and doing a quick 15 minutes charge will have enough time for a coffee and washroom visit!

I agree it is a very good and interesting comparison.

In reality, though I prefer the Taycan anyway, and the chargers on country routes aren’t frequent enough to target 10% soc at time of charge and motorways bore me, I tend to choose a shorter, scenic route and charging becomes a potential problem.

 

[Spyerx]

I agree he needs a more TL;DR approach, but I have not found bias in his videos and I think has been pretty spot on with what is good, what is not, and transparency. I don't get why hes a poseur? It is his GF car, why does that matter? He owns several EV (plaid, model 3, etc), and has a taycan turbo CT on order.

Here's another compare: Buddy did a road trip from SoCal/OC to Vegas last weekend, he stopped more than he normally would as he wanted to scope out the charging experience (which was ok... but only 1 charger would pump over 200kwh). Those who have done that drive know the drive to Vegas has some pretty decent grades and a long uphill to Vegas, pretty gradual, and way back is a long downhill with some hills entering SoCal.

Anyway, it's also a long, open desert road and if you aren't doing 90 you get run over.

He averaged 2.1mi/kwh in a sedan GTS. Average speeds were... quick pace.

So to run a RWD big battery spec sedan at that level of efficiency at I think 80 mph is pretty impressive.

 

[Scandinavian]

I agree it is a very good and interesting comparison.

In reality, though I prefer the Taycan anyway, and the chargers on country routes aren’t frequent enough to target 10% soc at time of charge and motorways bore me, I tend to choose a shorter, scenic route and charging becomes a potential problem.

I appreciate we all have very different use cases. And one size does not fit all.

For us we often go from the south east of France to the UK to visit friends and family. Then on to Sweden and Norway for same reason. So we plan for about around 600 - 800 km a day on long trips. And that is where the Taycan is very good with similar charging stops, 10-75 yo 90% in very short time.
Somedays we use scenic routes like the Route Napoleon, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_Napoléon) knowing the distance will be shorter but take longer time. Or Romantische Strasse in Germany (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantische_Straße). And then charging is more a case that you charge when possible at lunch stops etc. Or you need a detour to get to a HPC.

I think it is fantastic how fast the overall roll out of charging options has been in Europe. The next challenge is just to have the Porsche Charging service compatible with more of the charging networks. So one can avoid all the dongles and charging subscriptions

 

[ben1]

I typically try to arrive below 10%.
I optimise my arrival state of charge by adapting my speed.
For example: The car says that I will arrive with 8% state of charge, then I speed up. If it says below 4%, I slow down.
That way I try to arrive at about 5% state of charge.
Since I am typically driving well above the speed limit, I always have enough margin to slow down, to make sure I get to the charger.

While doing so, I also regularly check the charger availability, to be sure it is really available when I arrive. With 5% left, you do not have much range to go to the next charger.

 

[ben1]

I think it is fantastic how fast the overall roll out of charging options has been in Europe. The next challenge is just to have the Porsche Charging service compatible with more of the charging networks. So one can avoid all the dongles and charging subscriptions

Yes indeed.
I am driving an EV for 3 years now.
3 years ago I was clear that a Tesla had a big advantage with the supercharging network.
There were still gaps in my typical holiday routes using non-tesla chargers.

Today, 3 years later, you have an abundant amount of fast chargers in western europe. Plus access to most Tesla superchargers.
And it is still increasing at a very fast pace.
I see now a fast charger every 30km.

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