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Heat pump - is it worth ordering it in Spain?

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Hi,
I am finalising my Taycan 4S order. In Spain (as opposed to e.g. the US) the heat pump is not standard, it is a 787 EUR option (approx 870 USD).

It is not easy to understand what the heat pump does and what you loose if you don't add it to the spec. There is some info in this PDF (https://newsroom.porsche.com/dam/jc...8b845e321/PAG_Taycan_Technology_PM_EN.pdf.PDF) but it is not conclusive.
Nor has the dealer been able to explain it to me.

It seems that it could add range at temperatures below 20C (68F), but not by how much. I might drive occasionally to the Pyrenees mountains so any range extension is welcome.

Any input or sources of info?

Thanks,

Sven
 

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Hi Sven,

there is a range calculator on the Porsche website showing the differences of your expected range based on a lot of different parameters including turning on/off the heat pump.

For the Spanish website you will find the range calculator here:
https://www.porsche.com/spain/models/taycan/taycan-models/
On this page you should scroll down 4 pages until you find and click the button "Descrubir carga" to launch the range calculator.
(Porsche UK website shows the range calculator based on miles but without heat pump options here: https://www.porsche.com/uk/models/taycan/taycan-models/)
On the Spanish range calculator you can turn on/off the heat pump (Sistema de calefacción auxiliar).
Together with turning the air condition on/eco plus/off and reduce/increase the temperature you will find the largest range differences for the heat pump.

For example at -10 degree celsius (14 F) and air condition turned on the heat pump adds a range of 20 km (12.4 miles).
At +5 degree celsius (41 F) and air condition turned to eco plus the heat pump adds a range of 7 km (4.3 miles).
In case you turn off air condition the heat pump adds at any temperature no range at all.
 
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Hi Sven,

there is a range calculator on the Porsche website showing the differences of your expected range based on a lot of different parameters including turning on/off the heat pump.

For the Spanish website you will find the range calculator here:
https://www.porsche.com/spain/models/taycan/taycan-models/
On this page you should scroll down 4 pages until you find and click the button "Descrubir carga" to launch the range calculator.
(Porsche UK website shows the range calculator based on miles but without heat pump options here: https://www.porsche.com/uk/models/taycan/taycan-models/)
On the Spanish range calculator you can turn on/off the heat pump (Sistema de calefacción auxiliar).
Together with turning the air condition on/eco plus/off and reduce/increase the temperature you will find the largest range differences for the heat pump.

For example at -10 degree celsius (14 F) and air condition turned on the heat pump adds a range of 20 km (12.4 miles).
At +5 degree celsius (41 F) and air condition turned to eco plus the heat pump adds a range of 7 km (4.3 miles).
In case you turn off air condition the heat pump adds at any temperature no range at all.
Thanks, this was very useful!

Is there any other advantage with the Heat Pump, in addition to the slightly longer range? The dealer told me that with the heat pump the car could optimise the battery temperature for charging (for instance when you are approaching a DC charging point), but I am not sure this is accurate and I think it would require Porsche Intelligent Range Manager as well.
 

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i cannot understand if with heat pump we have only a little bit benefits in range...and if is a must also in places like Spain o Italy where is very rare to have very low tempratures
 

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It’s cheap, just get it. Anything below 5 c and the heat pump will kick in.
 

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It’s cheap, just get it. Anything below 5 c and the heat pump will kick in.
A heat pump is much more efficient at getting some “warmth” out of cold air. I don’t know whether the heat pump is used in heating cockpit, but if it is, it’ll warm cockpit a lot more efficiently than heating wires. I mention cockpit because I’m sure heat pump is used in warming battery, but I don’t know about inside car.
 

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A heat pump is much more efficient at getting some “warmth” out of cold air. I don’t know whether the heat pump is used in heating cockpit, but if it is, it’ll warm cockpit a lot more efficiently than heating wires. I mention cockpit because I’m sure heat pump is used in warming battery, but I don’t know about inside car.
The heat pump is about 4 times more efficient than heating wires. It does heat the cockpit. The battery is normally heated by the heat from inverters and motors if needed, but I guess at very low temperatures it will also be in the same heating circuit as the cabin heater.
 

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i cannot understand if with heat pump we have only a little bit benefits in range...and if is a must also in places like Spain o Italy where is very rare to have very low tempratures
Depends where you live and how far you travel routinely. If you live in Sardinia, probably not however Milan probably yes. Having said that I think it should have even standard to be fair
 

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A heat pump also works as air conditioner, meaning that you save energy also when the car is being cooled.
 

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Heat pump is a bit of a misleading name.
It's not only efficient to extract heat from (cold) air but it also generate cold when it's hot outside.
It works like a airco that can do both ways, warming and cooling.
Because it does this so efficiently (>300%) it can save you some range for free (well, for €787 that is...).
 

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In the US the heat pump is standard equipment.
 

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In the US the heat pump is standard equipment.
Porsche NA execs said they fought had to get heat pump. Included in all NA Taycans. I applaud that.
 

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