How are factory roof rails mounted on a CT?

[Tomato]

How are these mounted on the glass roof? The dealer ended up putting deep scratches on them when replacing my roof. They ordered replacement rails but leaning toward just leaving them off but unsure how the mounting points going to look without the rails. Going to ask the dealer to remove the existing rails and not install the new ones if the surface underneath is fully protected with some type of cover.

Has anyone done this or have pictures of the mounting point without the rails? I searched the forum and couldn't find any for CT.

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[WasserGKuehlt]

How are these mounted on the glass roof? The dealer ended up putting deep scratches on them when replacing my roof. They ordered replacement rails but leaning toward just leaving them off but unsure how the mounting points going to look without the rails. Going to ask the dealer to remove the existing rails and not install the new ones if the surface underneath is fully protected with some type of cover.

Has anyone done this or have pictures of the mounting point without the rails? I searched the forum and couldn't find any for CT.

Idk but that sounds sketchy. From the outside I don't see any way to access whatever fastens the rails to the roof, so I suspect it's through the glass. That is, replacing the rails is another roof-off procedure, and just removing them would leave holes. By all means get another opinion, but I'd live with the scratched bars (and extract some compensation for the hassle).

 

[TaycanCook]

I thought that the roof needs to be removed to replace the rails. Regardless, I am fairly certain that the glass is different if you have rails vs. not.

 

[Tomato]

If it's another roof off procedure then I'm going to skip it. Not worth them damaging more things in the car. They left the inside dirty and didn't even bother cleaning up whatever adhesive or grease they used to put on the replacement glass roof.

 

[whitex]

I thought that the roof needs to be removed to replace the rails. Regardless, I am fairly certain that the glass is different if you have rails vs. not.

From my factory photos, that does not seem to be the case.

First body with no glass or rails:

Then the glass goes on:

Then the rails:

It stands to reason, you'd disassemble it in reverse order.

 

[whitex]

but unsure how the mounting points going to look without the rails.

Like this:

See picture in the previous post for context.

 

[whitex]

If it's another roof off procedure then I'm going to skip it. Not worth them damaging more things in the car. They left the inside dirty and didn't even bother cleaning up whatever adhesive or grease they used to put on the replacement glass roof.

That is what happens then unemployment dips to record levels. 3.4% unemployment in the US today means:

1. Companies are forced to dip to the 5% of least qualified employees
2. Employees know it's a an employee market, so they care less about doing their jobs right. The attitude "What are they going to do? Fire me? LOL" is actually fairly prevalent nowadays in various industries jobs, including automotive service, even healthcare. I'm not saying it's everyone, but once you have to dig into the worst 5% of workers, it's bound to happen.

Last time we experienced this was the good old dot-com boom days (circa year 2000), ultra low unemployment, if you had a heart-beat and wanted a job, you got a job, even if you couldn't string 2 sentences together or called in "sick" because you "woke up in a good mood and didn't want to ruin it by going to work" - the fact that you called already made you better than some of your coworkers who just didn't show up. If you were willing to move to Silicon Valley and buy a few books, pay for a 6-12 week course diploma, you could get a $100K+ job doing nothing but contributing to the headcount (which was big back in dot-com days) - the school which you paid for your diploma even bused you over to a job fair. I was living in California back then, so I witnessed it first hand. I also witnessed the bubble burst, which was sad, as those people moved their families, got mortgages, then found themselves unemployable. I felt bad for those people, as they flooded the job market, but had no skills whatsoever.

 

[Tomato]

Like this:

See picture in the previous post for context.

Thanks for this. My car already got the rails on for the TYD factory picture. Looks like the entire headliner will have to come off to access those mounting points from inside the car.

Going to bring up the issues from the last visit and hopefully the service manager will ensure a better workmanship this time around.

 

[whitex]

Thanks for this. My car already got the rails on for the TYD factory picture.

I got 5 pictures from TYD. First 3 showed up, then the last 2. Here are the ones I ended up with:
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...on-photo-from-assembly-line.10340/post-222401

 

[TaycanCook]

From my factory photos, that does not seem to be the case.

First body with no glass or rails:

Then the glass goes on:

Then the rails:

It stands to reason, you'd disassemble it in reverse order.

Thanks! So glad to see that the rails do not require the roof to come off.

 

[mjw930]

This is where Porsche over engineered things IMHO. Why create 2 different glass roof configurations when one configuration with cover plates for those not optioning the rails? This would make the rails a dealer installable option for those whose lifestyle may change and wish to add rails could. Just like 99% of their competition do.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

This is where Porsche over engineered things IMHO. Why create 2 different glass roof configurations when one configuration with cover plates for those not optioning the rails? This would make the rails a dealer installable option for those whose lifestyle may change and wish to add rails could. Just like 99% of their competition do.

Well, how would that work? it would mean the glass roof could not cover the entire roof (to leave room to install the rails straight into the 'sides'), or have plugged holes/your cover plates (?), or not allow the combination of rails with glass roof (CTs in the US have no metal roof option).

A cover plate, as you put it, would make a lot of wind noise - besides the appalling esthetics.

 

[mjw930]

Not sure they couldn’t be engineered to be good looking and quiet but it’s moot as upon further investigation there is underlying structure that’s different too so probably not as much potential cost savings as I first thought.

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