How best to play CD music in a 4S (Bose)?

[Fish Fingers]

48kHz sampling rate gives a frequency response that is is flat to 24kHz.
I can hear to 14kHz so 48kHz is plenty as a sampling rate for me, even at home on my stereo that is more expensive than the Taycan, never mind in a car!

As an bored engineer I did extensive controlled tests on this about 15 years ago.

There is a lot of bollox talked and written about the possibility of higher resolution than that being audible IME. All marketing to separate the technically illiterate from their money IMO.

I am you you on this.......

I don't get too concerned about audio quality in a car. With all the tyre and wind noise it's hardly the perfect listening environment.

As long as the audio has a bit of punch it will do for me......
especially as a lot of the music I listen to may have been recorded a while ago, on far from perfect production facilities (rare Soul/ House/Jazz etc).

I also don't bother with streaming services as I found the Taycan can get one of my fave specialist radio stations on the Internet Radio.

Sorry, slightly off topic.

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[f1eng]

I am you you on this.......

I don't get too concerned about audio quality in a car. With all the tyre and wind noise it's hardly the perfect listening environment.

As long as the audio has a bit of punch it will do for me......
especially as a lot of the music I listen to may have been recorded a while ago, on far from perfect production facilities (rare Soul/ House/Jazz etc).

I also don't bother with streaming services as I found the Taycan can get one of my fave specialist radio stations on the Internet Radio.

Sorry, slightly off topic.

As a music lover all my life and having both worked in the LP industry before I went into F1, been a keen amateur recordist for over 50 years and having spent rather a lot of cash on audio since I left home in 1968 the one thing that is abundantly clear is that there is a much bigger variation in the quality of the actual recordings than there is between reasonable bits of domestic hifi.

The thing which makes the biggest difference to the sound is the room and where the speakers and listener are in it, and a car is a non ideal "room" and a huge amount of audio processing is done to compensate for the impossibility of having either driver of speakers in good locations.

Like you a lot of my favourite performances are not on the best recordings either.

 

[Davy021]

What's a CD?

 

[02bluesuperroo]

48kHz sampling rate gives a frequency response that is is flat to 24kHz.
I can hear to 14kHz so 48kHz is plenty as a sampling rate for me, even at home on my stereo that is more expensive than the Taycan, never mind in a car!

As an bored engineer I did extensive controlled tests on this about 15 years ago.

There is a lot of bollox talked and written about the possibility of higher resolution than that being audible IME. All marketing to separate the technically illiterate from their money IMO.

Isn't the 320 kbit/s bitrate of the DAC the more concerning factor? It seems like it wouldn't be worth listening to anything over 320kbit MP3 in this case, and using a lossless file in the car would be pointless.

 

[f1eng]

Isn't the 320 kbit/s bitrate of the DAC the more concerning factor? It seems like it wouldn't be worth listening to anything over 320kbit MP3 in this case, and using a lossless file in the car would be pointless.

Whilst I have heard plenty of people claiming they can hear the difference properly controlled testing shows 320kbit to be the point higher than which most people actually can't hear a difference even in quiet test conditions (trained listeners can detect small differences on certain types of sound but not significant IMO) so it is probably plenty good enough for a car.

 

[Fish Fingers]

As much as I love my vinyl collection, it's probably not worth upgrading to Burmester for the improved dynamic range with many of the older 45 recordings.

Probs just make the crackles louder.
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[02bluesuperroo]

As much as I love my vinyl collection, it's probably not worth upgrading to Burmester for the improved dynamic range with many of the older 45 recordings.

Probs just make the crackles louder.
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I know most audiophiles scoff at music in a car but I'm a car audio enthusiast and I find the Burmester stereo to be quite impressive for OEM. For me, Bose vs Burmester is the difference between wanting to modify the stereo with aftermarket equipment vs being satisfied with the OEM setup. Considering the implications of trying to modify a brand new Taycan for car audio in terms of reliability and warranty concerns, I'm very happy I chose the Burmester.

 

[timc3]

Well they don't specify whether the max bitrate is for every format. You could create an awful codec that sounds bad at 320 kbit/s but yeah in a car driving along with an MP3 encoded well at 320kbit/s it should be near impossible to differentiate from uncompressed, or an AAC at 2/3rds of the bitrate.

In my studio designed by an acoustician where I had to have only a certain depth of desk and crazy amounts of insulation with 4-way full range speakers positioned correctly and my chair in a certain place, it's borderline telling the difference, I wouldn't wanto to bet on it. The room is amazing and highlights so many flaws in the original recording that as f1eng says the quality of the original is a far bigger variable. That's why I am going to go with the Bose because any serious listening I will do at the studio, and fun listening on my normal system. In the studio I will use higher sample rates than 48khz but mainly because I like messing around reducing playback speed. Bit depth is more important to me anyway.

Regarding the OP's request, I would consider streaming as well. If not then ripping the CDs in AAC or Flac more for quality to filesize ratio than anything else, embed some metadata if possible and then it put on a USB drive.

 

[Fish Fingers]

I know most audiophiles scoff at music in a car but I'm a car audio enthusiast and I find the Burmester stereo to be quite impressive for OEM. For me, Bose vs Burmester is the difference between wanting to modify the stereo with aftermarket equipment vs being satisfied with the OEM setup. Considering the implications of trying to modify a brand new Taycan for car audio in terms of reliability and warranty concerns, I'm very happy I chose the Burmester.

I thoroughly get your point of view?

I was just making the point that for much of my old vinyl collection, the recordings are so bad that you could stick a cushion in front of the speakers and not notice much difference.

As I used to say when I was an avid Northern Soul collector 'You have to pay a lot of money for a record collection that sounds this bad'
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[Gwaihir]

I thoroughly get your point of view?

I was just making the point that for much of my old vinyl collection, the recordings are so bad that you could stick a cushion in front of the speakers and not notice much difference.

As I used to say when I was an avid Northern Soul collector 'You have to pay a lot of money for a record collection that sounds this bad'
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Don’t know what all the fuss is about. I remember the days when we were teenagers dribbling over having an 8 track stereo in the car and thinking it was brilliant. The real highlight was fitting RS Component speakers in hand made cabinets. I’m sure it was much better than my Bose! Well thats how I remember it?

 

[f1eng]

I heard the standard system for the first time earlier this week and was surprised that the sound seemed to come from quite low down, knee level, despite seeming to have dash top mounted speakers.
I didn't notice this with the Bose.
Haven't heard Burmester.

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