Is there going to be a new Taycan?

[Mazithra]

Hey guys,

As we all know Taycan is Porsche's first attempt at making a fully electric vehicle. I think they did a terrific job, but I also think that most of their design choices were heavily influenced by Tesla.

So I'm curious if Porsche will be making a brand new Taycan in the next 2-3 years? Or will they be following Tesla's playbook and keep the car as is with minimal upgrades every now and then?

Tesla has been making the Model S since 2012, and the body of the car is pretty much the same today except for some facelifts and improvements.Taycan has been around since 2019, how long do you think we'll be seeing the same chassis/design?

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[Jhenson29]

but I also think that most of their design choices were heavily influenced by Tesla.

Like what…?
Exterior design is very Porsche.
They didn’t do the single tablet screen.
The charging controls are clearly different (based on grumpy forum).
They didn’t do one-pedal driving (brake regen is totally different).

They’re both electric though. So, there’s that.

So I'm curious if Porsche will be making a brand new Taycan in the next 2-3 years? Or will they be following Tesla's playbook and keep the car as is with minimal upgrades every now and then?

Typcially 7 years between generations with minor refresh after 4 years into a new generation.

 

[smoothound]

The standard upgrade sequence for established models is a 4 year refresh (MY24 in 2003) and an 8 year new model (MY28 in 2007).

But Taycan has had a birth with new variants in it's first 3 years - and there is the supply/covid situation - So it could be that there is a one or two year delay in the 4 or the 8 year timeframe (a pure guess) - and this could be moderated according to new EV step change developments.....

But the fact that the EV development speed is so very rapid - so it may be that the traditional development process changes and mini updates are done each 1-2 years to keep up with tech.

In addition - Porsche and VW are bringing on stream a new EV platform for Bentley/Lambo and top end Audis etc...... And that is estimated to be available for Taycan later in this decade so 2027/8/9?....... It could be that any 8 year model change could be synchronised to that.

I think given the rate of change in the EV development - the 4-8 year traditional stages could be moderated to decent changes every couple of years - and then a change to a new platform (and hence a new model) in 2028..

just a crystal ball guess

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[Deleted member 7736]

Purely a wild guess here... I think Porsche is going to be a lot more focused on bringing new EV's to market than they are refreshing a model they already can't make enough of to fulfill demand. My dealer told me they're now selling more Taycans than 911's. That's saying something. I'm guessing we may see a minor cosmetic refresh, and perhaps a bump in battery pack spec but I wouldn't expect anything dramatic for a while.

 

[fgwinn]

Like what…?
Exterior design is very Porsche.
They didn’t do the single tablet screen.
The charging controls are clearly different (based on grumpy forum).
They didn’t do one-pedal driving (brake regen is totally different).

They’re both electric though. So, there’s that.

Typcially 7 years between generations with minor refresh after 4 years into a new generation.

Add 2-speed transmission to your list.

 

[whan]

They often make some of the bigger powertrain changes in the .2 refresh. Consider the 991 gen 911 that went from NA to Turbo across the lineup. I wouldn't be surprised to see meaningful powertrain improvements but minimal to no styling and interior changes in the .2 taycan refresh. Like others I do think that even the refresh may be a few years out as they are likely focused on getting the EV Macan out ASAP, and given the covid dynamics when the taycan was released. I'd bet probably the 2025 model year could see the .2 refresh

 

[Mazithra]

Like what…?
Exterior design is very Porsche.

The proportions are solely based on Tesla Model S IMO.

They didn’t do the single tablet screen.

They did a lot of screens with a touch interface, whereas other Porsche's have solid buttons.

Also:
The glass roof which doesn't open: Tesla did that first

I mean you're also right, but it's clear that Porsche guys took the Model S as their main competition when they were doing the Taycan.

 

[Jhenson29]

The proportions are solely based on Tesla Model S IMO.

I don’t see it. Do you have a specific example?

They did a lot of screens with a touch interface, whereas other Porsche's have solid buttons.

Also:
The glass roof which doesn't open: Tesla did that first

Maybe. I haven’t researched the history of glass roofs to verify that. But regardless. Even if I grant the fixed glass roof and increase in touch screen based controls, I don’t think that elevates the influence to the claimed amount of “most”.

 

[feye]

Purely a wild guess here... I think Porsche is going to be a lot more focused on bringing new EV's to market than they are refreshing a model they already can't make enough of to fulfill demand. My dealer told me they're now selling more Taycans than 911's. That's saying something. I'm guessing we may see a minor cosmetic refresh, and perhaps a bump in battery pack spec but I wouldn't expect anything dramatic for a while.

Yep. They have to electrify every model in the next 15 years, that is their priority! The only thing they need for the Taycan to stay competitive is better battery and power electronics tech.

The real model upgrade for the Taycan will come with a new platform...

 

[W1NGE]

Hey guys,

As we all know Taycan is Porsche's first attempt at making a fully electric vehicle. I think they did a terrific job, but I also think that most of their design choices were heavily influenced by Tesla.

So I'm curious if Porsche will be making a brand new Taycan in the next 2-3 years? Or will they be following Tesla's playbook and keep the car as is with minimal upgrades every now and then?

Tesla has been making the Model S since 2012, and the body of the car is pretty much the same today except for some facelifts and improvements.Taycan has been around since 2019, how long do you think we'll be seeing the same chassis/design?

Agree with the other comments. I think there'll be the Macan EV and potentially a Panamera EV before the next incarnation of the Taycan. Personally I'll probably jump to the Panamera EV should that happen.

 

[XLR82XS]

MY 2027

 

[Deleted member 7736]

This has probably already been discussed here but it's the first time I've seen it. The article is a year old now but if the timeline holds, this lines up with Porsche eventually introducing in-house batteries to the Taycan lineup and the rest of their EV's with improved range and charging specs.

https://hypebeast.com/2021/6/porsche-producing-own-ev-battery-cells-2024

 

[whitex]

My dealer told me they're now selling more Taycans than 911's. That's saying something.

It is not necessarily saying anything given current market conditions. Today dealers are selling everything they can get their hands on, so naturally it would follow that they will sell more of the model that Porsche produces more, i.e. the most sold car is not the most popular car, it's just the one they manage to make the most of. They must have a real production slowdown on 911's if tiny Taycan numbers exceeded it.

 

[Archimedes]

It is not necessarily saying anything given current market conditions. Today dealers are selling everything they can get their hands on, so naturally it would follow that they will sell more of the model that Porsche produces more, i.e. the most sold car is not the most popular car, it's just the one they manage to make the most of. They must have a real production slowdown on 911's if tiny Taycan numbers exceeded it.

Again, another nonsense post by the Tesla troll. Before you post drivel like this, you might do a little basic research about 911 sales history. Taycan annual sales are higher than 911 sales have ever been. In any year. Ever.

 

[whitex]

Again, another nonsense post by the Tesla troll. Before you post drivel like this, you might do a little basic research about 911 sales history. Taycan annual sales are higher than 911 sales have ever been. In any year. Ever.

If they sell every 911 and Taycan they produce with people on wait lists, that means the sales numbers are production constrained, i.e. there is untapped demand for more than they can produce for which you don't have any numbers, therefore you have no clue which one would sell more if production capacity was not severely limited as it is right now. Sorry, I fail to see your logic here even if you were to back up your claims with sourced data.

I also fail to see a Tesla connection, how you made a leap from someone saying 911 vs. Taycan numbers are production constrained therefore cannot be compared, to calling them a Tesla troll. The only explanation I can think of is that you call anyone a Tesla troll who owns a Tesla who makes any statements you don't like or disagree with, in which case I suggest you lookup the definition of a troll.

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