Kettles and other 12v outlet equipment

[oxum]

I have been thinking of getting a kettle for my Taycan to enjoy a good cup of java wherever we are. I just couldn't find all the information I wanted about it in the Good to know app.

Does the power from the 12v outlets come from the 12v battery or the HV battery?

If not the from the HV battery, would one risk depleting the 12v battery if using to boil water?

In ICE cars I know the alternator would basically enable you to use the current for as long as the car is on without risks on the 12v battery.. It seems a bit more hazy when it comes to an EV.

Any advice appreciated on these as the last thing I'd want is to brick the car on a trip while making coffee.

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[JimBob]

There are discussion on Tesla forums about this, but haven't seen one for a Taycan.

The most I have done is run a little air pump to put air into a tire without an issue.

I guess there are two things that could happen. Either 1. the fuse blows or the software shuts the 12v battery down to protect it against excessive current draw or 2. it works.

I think the former but you could be the first tester and report back.

 

[Jhenson29]

Looks like max of 30 min operation with vehicle off (suggesting longer if vehicle is on) and max 240watt for single socket.

 

[Midlifecrisis]

240 Watts. That will take a while to boil water. Most kettles are 2400-3000 Watts!

 

[Jhenson29]

240 Watts. That will take a while to boil water. Most kettles are 2400-3000 Watts!

I looked up some 12V travel kettles out of curiosity and they seem to be in the 20-25min range. So, yes, pretty slow.

Maybe they have a 16kW 800VDC version.

 

[Gnasher]

It’s probably better to get a thermal flask with a battery to keep your drink warm plus doesn’t dig into your range! IMO it’s a nice idea but maybe not worth it..

Does anyone plan to have a cool box ? Same principle i think…

 

[McgR]

It’s probably better to get a thermal flask with a battery to keep your drink warm plus doesn’t dig into your range! IMO it’s a nice idea but maybe not worth it..

Does anyone plan to have a cool box ? Same principle i think…

I purchased the Tequipment cooling bag. It looks nice and not to big. It has a protection not to drain the battery. Haven’t tested it yet but I think I will unplug it during stops. The isolation should keep things cool for a while. I had a bigger cooling box in my X5 45e and didn’t unplug it and never had an issue. Draining the 12V battery would have had the same effect as in the Taycan.

 

[W1NGE]

I have been thinking of getting a kettle for my Taycan to enjoy a good cup of java wherever we are. I just couldn't find all the information I wanted about it in the Good to know app.

Does the power from the 12v outlets come from the 12v battery or the HV battery?

If not the from the HV battery, would one risk depleting the 12v battery if using to boil water?

In ICE cars I know the alternator would basically enable you to use the current for as long as the car is on without risks on the 12v battery.. It seems a bit more hazy when it comes to an EV.

Any advice appreciated on these as the last thing I'd want is to brick the car on a trip while making coffee.

12v battery would be the supply source.

With the car powered on then the 12v should automatically be topped up via the HV battery.

I have the cool bag (crap) which is 12v.

https://content3.eu.porsche.com/pro...c=product&pr=4B627C9EF1ABF45FC12587950052A261

 

[McgR]

12v battery would be the supply source.

With the car powered on then the 12v should automatically be topped up via the HV battery.

I have the cool bag (crap) which is 12v.

https://content3.eu.porsche.com/prod/pag/tequipment/TeqFinder.nsf/TeqFinder?ReadForm&ba=Taycan&ma=PCGB (RL)&sp=1&bt=J1&mo=Taycan 4S Sport Turismo&co=30&ac=product&pr=4B627C9EF1ABF45FC12587950052A261

Yes that is the bag I mentioned I purchased in my post above. Will test it to see if it is crap and leave it in a during my holiday if necessary .

 

[4MBN]

12v battery would be the supply source.

With the car powered on then the 12v should automatically be topped up via the HV battery.

I have the cool bag (crap) which is 12v.

https://content3.eu.porsche.com/prod/pag/tequipment/TeqFinder.nsf/TeqFinder?ReadForm&ba=Taycan&ma=PCGB (RL)&sp=1&bt=J1&mo=Taycan 4S Sport Turismo&co=30&ac=product&pr=4B627C9EF1ABF45FC12587950052A261

I have the cool bag too. It does look "cool" but agree it's not great.

Capacity disappointing compared to the size of the bag.

I had mixed results on my recent road trip, sometimes it worked well, sometimes it didn't!

 

[Gnasher]

I have the cool bag too. It does look "cool" but agree it's not great.

Capacity disappointing compared to the size of the bag.

I had mixed results on my recent road trip, sometimes it worked well, sometimes it didn't!

this !

I have the Audi one which is I think the same just rebranded.

can fit a couple of cans of coke in there and it’s just not worth the space it takes.

I’ve never used it in fact so it’s brand new !

horses for courses though and some people would need this for baby milk etc just not for me and with electric car rather not drain battery.

 

[W1NGE]

Six and half a dozen I'd say as you need to replenish the energy used - EV or ICE - cheaper to top up an EV than an ICE vehicle ;-)

A Handpresso (or similar) would be a better option - https://www.handpresso.com/en/handpresso-auto-set-capsule-391.html - would be dandy.

 

[4MBN]

A Handpresso (or similar) would be a better option - https://www.handpresso.com/en/handpresso-auto-set-capsule-391.html - would be dandy.

This is awesome! Life complete!!

 

[oxum]

A Handpresso (or similar) would be a better option - https://www.handpresso.com/en/handpresso-auto-set-capsule-391.html - would be dandy.

That's a great idea. And unlikely to be a concern to the battery.

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