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Still not seeing the use of this. I’m not going to constantly glance at the display. But YMMV!

 

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Still not seeing the use of this. I’m not going to constantly glance at the display. But YMMV!
I was exactly of the same mind - "I'm not going to spend my time monitoring the dashboard when I should be keeping my eyes up - one of the first thing they'll teach you in racing. But the fact that there is an 'alert' in the form of a yellow outline that appears when an animal is sensed at the roadside means you'll pick it up in your vision field. That did it for me.
 

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My night vision 50 years ago in open range Idaho, Montana, and Utah was one million candle power aircraft landing lights for high beams. Maryland inspection made me remove them!
 

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My night vision 50 years ago in open range Idaho, Montana, and Utah was one million candle power aircraft landing lights for high beams. Maryland inspection made me remove them!
Thats interesting. My Father had "aircraft landing lights" on his 66 Corvair Corsa (6 Cylinders, 4 Carbs, Air Cooled). He loved that car!

Aircraft also went the OTHER way. My Cirrus SR22 has a MaxVis Enhanced Vision System. It provides a blended IR Thermal and Night Vision (Light Amplified) image to the instrument panel. We use it both for taxiing (again deer) and locating ground structures/runways at night or in low visibility.

It doesn't matter how bright your lights are. A deer is still a ruddy brown animal which blends into its ruddy brown surroundings (trees, bushes, leaves). Thermal (IR) doesn't amplify light or colors (like "Night Vision" does). It reads heat and temperature. It doesn't matter what color the animal is or even if a person is wearing military camo. A warm body is going to stand out brightly against its natural surroundings. (Thats why you can't use thermal imaging through a window - all it sees is the temperature of the glass in front of it). You can get decent "Night Vision" (light amplification) binoculars for a couple of hundred dollars but a Thermal (IR) set will run thousands ($5000-$6000 dollars). Its completely different technology. I had this on my M6 and I'm looking forward to having it again on the Taycan.

In my experience, You are gonna see roadside animals much quicker/easier with an IR Thermal System than scanning your environment. I wouldn't pass that option up if that matters to you...

IMHO: If you are "fixating" out the windshield while driving at night, then you are likely exceeding a safe speed for the conditions. I'm never driving that fast if there could be wildlife around...
 
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Re the 85% recommended limit. I have a Turbo S on order and have owned Teslas for the last 5 years. The Tesla recommendation is 90%. I hardly ever charge above it except occasionally on long trips. During lockdown, I have used solar to charge my car when I was working from home so have got used to not having it full up at 90% all of the time and it’s fine. Now that I’m back at work, my business has 50 solar panels and I only charge when the sun is out. It is best feeling knowing when you put your foot down, you are using purely energy from the sun.
 


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Pre delivery work in progress!
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Just before I got it:

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I decided to get a Taycan last year because it pressed a lot more buttons for me than a Tesla and aside from the fact that this is probably the future, I fancied a significant change.

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Over the last month I have driven a Taycan Turbo demonstrator on 2 occasions for a total of about 250 miles. I took delivery of my Turbo S a few days ago and have done another 250 miles in that. I still haven’t read the manual so I have some learning to do about the tech in the car. This short review is mainly about my general experience with some pros and cons.



Starting with the cons (both cars)…


I have two rattles – both front doors rattle on rough surfaces near the top of the door trim. Possible additional rattle on the same surfaces from the around the seat belt adjustment thing. Hopefully the dealer will resolve these.

The demo also had rattles from similar locations. The second time I took it out the dealer had fixed them.

The demo had a bad stitch right in the middle of the dash. Thankfully mine hasn’t!

The plastic (or whatever it is) joint piece in the middle of the dash above the centre air vents looks like an afterthought. It doesn’t quite fit properly. It is a very minor problem though. You can just about see it in the pic.

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The demo car had normal glass and there was a lot of wind noise at higher speeds. Could have been a problem of course but I don’t hear any significant wind in mine which has the thermal and acoustic glass. I very nearly didn’t bother with this but figured it is an electric car and silence is a good thing!

I sometimes feel the gear meander a bit.. very minor negative and it is infrequent. I barely noticed the gear change in the Turbo but it was probably identical.

The tech is a bit fiddly. It looks great but scrolling is a bit annoying and you have to take your eyes off the road, you can’t learn switch placement. There may be a quick way to do it somewhere but turning on, for example, seat massage seems to involve several screen presses which is fairly impractical when driving. Overall there should be more buttons for common use controls. (IMO)

I don’t quite know what to make of the recommended 85% battery charge. At 100% charge my car suggests I’m only going to get a whopping 210 miles or so which is bad enough. What are the long term affects of charging to 100% every day?

The displays don’t really report enough information about the battery level situation. More advanced information and reporting would be nice. If the car did 500 miles it wouldn’t be a problem.

I am struggling to understand the connect app and timers. I set one up two days ago to cool the car to 19.5 degrees C at 7:45 am with 85% charge (as instructed by the high command). Got up yesterday morning. App had gone back to 22 degrees. Car was at 98% charge!? This morning.. still 22 degrees but 86% charge. In addition I had to tell the Andersen charger to only supply juice from 0:00 as the car decided it want to eat some electricity as soon as I plugged it in.

Normal Porsche voice control, for making calls at least, seems a very sluggish. Takes almost twice as long as my truck to intiate the same call.

No soft close doors. A feature I quite like.

No HUD.. Although the cockpit display is very nice. And almost removes the need. (But not quite). The 2021 implementation looks fugly.

I can’t see all if the cockpit display functions. The steering wheel grip covers up some displays and makes it harder to see the outer touch buttons – like the suspension toggle. No real solution to this of course.

Some of the external plastics are a little bit err .. function over form. I can see why some owners have had areas painted. Minor niggle.

Apple carplay does not work wirelessly. My 2018 M5 comp pack had flawless wireless carplay. What is the problem? I thought the car had it but it doesn’t and I have all the latest updates.



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Pros..

Quite honestly the pros massively outweigh the cons.

I ordered the Turbo S a bit blind and assumed that it would simply be quicker than the non “S”. I was a bit disappointed that the Turbo S could apparently only use the extra power over the non “S” when launched. I later noticed that Porsche’s brochure figures appear to show overtaking is a bit quicker. Maybe this is actually true but I can’t say that I noticed any difference from the Turbo except during a launch. I hope that Porsche will “unlock” the extra power potential the S presumably has but I’m not holding my breath. Launch control is a cool feature but is something I have rarely done in my previous cars with too much faffing setting up and component stress and sounding like a loon at traffic lights. Anyway, overall (and I know this sounds like a con so far) I figured that using launch control would be a nice party trick when I had time to find somewhere to use it with a passenger in. But then there is the Taycan Come to a stop… anywhere... Left foot on brake, floor the accelerator wait a few seconds.. Take foot of brake. Head slams into seat, passengers start laughing, g meter shows 1.2gs.. We are doing 60 before I can think. I can do this without anyone even knowing I’m going to do it. I can do it anywhere! No high revving engine noise.. I’m just gone. Wow.

Overtaking.. My R8 V10+ was probably just as quick and getting it in the zone was fun and the sound is awesome.. but the Taycan overtakes at any speed and at any point and with instant torque. You cannot achieve this feat with a combustion engine unless you are in the correct gear with the correct settings. Phenomenal.

General feel. The car is so smooth to drive. It glides along in normal mode like a Bentley and even in Sport plus it feels great. How it achieves this and handles the way it does is beyond me.

Which brings me to handling. Many motoring journalists have commented on how Porsche like the Taycan is. How it hides its weight, how well it corners. They are 100% correct. The handling is literally unbelievable for a car of this weight. It feels lighter than my M5 and more planted. Quite honestly it feels more stable than my R8 did especially on bumpy roads. On UK B roads which are generally uneven at best I cannot think of a car that could keep up with a Taycan with an average person driving it really is that good in my opinion.

Wired apple car play is a good implementation, the best I’ve seen actually… Shame it is just wired! (Hopefully this will be fixed!)

Overall the internal tech is slick, just a bit form over function.

Ambient lighting is nice. More colours would be plus but there is good control over brightness by zone.

Seats are comfortable. Seat massage is powerful. A shame the seat base doesn’t do massage but not a big deal.

Air con in ECO seems fine for the UK at least. No problem the day before yesterday in 38 degree outside temps.

The passenger display is a pretty good idea, I thought it would be just a gimmick and perhaps look nice but actually my passengers have found it useful to pick songs, looks at the nav, watch what speed I’m doing and all without distracting me from driving.

Love the way the car looks especially from the side.

All panel gaps are spot on, I have cleaned it twice and haven’t found gap problems.

Paint finish is good. It could do with some correction like almost every new car.

Switch gear is all solid, plastics and leather all feel premium

Aside from the rough surface rattles form the door trims.. the car is very solid when going over bumps and on undulating roads. Very quiet with almost no creaks or noises.

I love the carbon steering wheel in mine, looks great, feels great.

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I expected a problem with the front door entry but haven’t noticed any problem at all.

Night vision is better than I thought it would be

Carbon mirror caps are very nice.

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My 6ft 6 son can fit in the back with at least some level of comfort. His head does touch the roof though and he wasn’t too happy when I launched when he was in the back. :)

Overall this is a truly great car, Porsche have really nailed it. It is a bit expensive but it is 100% Porsche.
hi ,
I had the same rattle in the door trim on the drivers side. I almost went crazy , the car itself is so quiet and I just kept on hearing it. My husband ( a mechanic /restorator of oldtimers) sprayed Glide spray on it and thank god it's gone.
Maybe a little tip for your dealer?
 

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Nice to see Hannibal is gainfully employed...He must be a glutton for Porsches

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hi ,
I had the same rattle in the door trim on the drivers side. I almost went crazy , the car itself is so quiet and I just kept on hearing it. My husband ( a mechanic /restorator of oldtimers) sprayed Glide spray on it and thank god it's gone.
Maybe a little tip for your dealer?
I have had more noises since then unfortunately. Thanks for your post!
 

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NIGHT VISION: Yes, yes, yes! I have this on my TurboS (arriving in about a week) and also had it on my M6.

The VERY BEST thing about night vision is not seeing outlines of people in the city. Its being able to see the body heat of animals off the side of the road in the dark of night. I used to do a lot of early morning departures in the mountains of VA and upstate NY, and I always had the Night Vision up and running to look for deer at the sides of the roads. You can really see them glowing white hot from very far away. If you do any night driving in rural areas, the ability to watch for deer etc is awesome!

(Its also cool, but relatively useless, to see all the "hot" electrical transformers at the top of telephone poles... ;-)
Maybe off topic but has anybody figured out how to operate the night vision wash function
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Maybe off topic but has anybody figured out how to operate the night vision wash function
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I have been searching for hours and was unable to locate the washer. I wonder if it exists? Did something go wrong during production?
 

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hi ,
I had the same rattle in the door trim on the drivers side. I almost went crazy , the car itself is so quiet and I just kept on hearing it. My husband ( a mechanic /restorator of oldtimers) sprayed Glide spray on it and thank god it's gone.
Maybe a little tip for your dealer?
Hi, That's great. What is "Glide spray"
 
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Hi, That's great. What is "Glide spray"
Almost certainly a silcone based lubricant. The main problem with using these in my past experience is that the noise can sometimes come back as the lubricant dries. A lot easier than pulling a door card/trim off and putting felt in though :)
 

 
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