NEMA 6-50 install - I did it today - it can be almost trivial…it took me 2 hours!

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mostly don't connect things to plugs you don't have adapter for and certainly don't change amps with adapters…

Rv parks have NEMA 14-50 plugs (240V @ 50 amps (40 amps EV charging) - 9.6 kW "raw" EV charging power) - no adapter necessary

Rv parks also have NEMA TT-30's (120V @ 30 amps (24 amps EV charging) - 2.88 kW "raw" EV charging power) - you'd need a Porsche PMC+/PMCC 30 amp supply cable to use this plug and a TT-30 adapter - or any EV charger that supports 30 amp NEMA plug adapters + a TT-30 adapter/supply-cable…

just the NEMA 14-30 or 6-30 supply cable from Porsche is $200+ - you can buy an entire separate Mustart EVSE w/TT-30 supply cable for about $300
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Today I replaced my Cooper 14-50 receptacle with a Hubbell 14-50 receptacle. The receptacle showed no signs of over heating.
One lesson I got was that the Hubbell 14-50 R requires a cover with a 2 1/2 inch cut out. This is larger than the Cooper 14-50 receptacle. These 2 1/2 inch cut out covers are available at electrical supply houses, not Lowes.
 
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Today I replaced my Cooper 14-50 receptacle with a Hubbell 14-50 receptacle. The receptacle showed no signs of over heating.
One lesson I got was that the Hubbell 14-50 R requires a cover with a 2 1/2 inch cut out. This is larger than the Cooper 14-50 receptacle. These 2 1/2 inch cut out covers are available at electrical supply houses, not Lowes.
amazon also has them!
 

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Hi all. My first post on this forum but I've been enjoying all the great contributions from members since 2020. Recently joined the waitlist for a CT4 and was in a Taycan Owners Clinic in Bellevue this month. This slide may be of interest here- the presenter from Porsche corporate (and travels around the country testing EV chargers) strongly insisted on the Hubbell HBL9450A to avoid problems with overheating.

Porsche Taycan NEMA 6-50 install - I did it today - it can be almost trivial…it took me 2 hours! taycan-clinic-outlet
 


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Hi all. My first post on this forum but I've been enjoying all the great contributions from members since 2020. Recently joined the waitlist for a CT4 and was in a Taycan Owners Clinic in Bellevue this month. This slide may be of interest here- the presenter from Porsche corporate (and travels around the country testing EV chargers) strongly insisted on the Hubbell HBL9450A to avoid problems with overheating.

taycan-clinic-outlet.jpeg
thanks for the update - yeah Porsche has gotten around to figuring that out

ROFL laughing for the note that the NEMA 6-50, 14-30, 6-30 can "increase" charging times

OMG - these people just can't get it right - 14-50 and 6-50 ARE EXACTLY THE SAME in terms of charging time - both are 240V @ 50 amps…or 9.6 kW charge rate

only the two 14-30 and/or 6-30 _will_ increase charging time - and it's not that they "can" increase charging time - they _WILL_ increase charging time - because they are only 30 amps vs. 50 amps - or 5.76 kW charge rate.

you know what else will increase charging time? using a crappy EVSE that has been nerf'd by the manufacturing to only charge at 20 amps because it overheats!!

however they are 100% correct - use a Hubble 14-50 or 6-50 commercial/industrial grade plug!
 
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Hi all. My first post on this forum but I've been enjoying all the great contributions from members since 2020. Recently joined the waitlist for a CT4 and was in a Taycan Owners Clinic in Bellevue this month. This slide may be of interest here- the presenter from Porsche corporate (and travels around the country testing EV chargers) strongly insisted on the Hubbell HBL9450A to avoid problems with overheating.

taycan-clinic-outlet.jpeg
my edits to the slide are as follows - there is mis-information int his slide and we all know charging is hard enough and getting the details wrong makes people even more confused when presented with the truth…

The Level 2 cord comes standard with a NEMA 14-50 supply cable for the 240V connection. You can optionally swap for other plug types for no-cost at order time (i.e. NEMA 6-50, NEMA 14-30 or NEMA 6-30). The NEMA 6-50 and 14-50 offer identical charging times since both are 240V 50 amp circuits, the NEMA 14-30/6-30 will increase charging time because they are 30 amp circuits.

All 50 amp circuits should charge at a maximum rate of 9.6 kW, the 30 amp circuits will offer a maximum charge rate of 5.76 kW

In both 50 amp cases an industrial/commercial grade Hubble brake outlet (insert 14-50 & 6-50 part number here) is highly recommended for reliability, robustness, and performance.

the slide as written is a bit sloppy - but I agree with the message 100%

anyways I'd rework the slide to treat the 14-50/6-50 plugs types as equivalent (they are 100% equivalent no question) and note the 5.76 kW charge rate with the 2 optional 30 amp plug types (14-30/6-30)

the onboard charging with the Taycan (11 kw) is capabile of charging at level 1 (120 Volt) and Level 2 (240 Volt).
and add a 2nd slide on the next page

To maximize the North American Taycan's 240V L2 Charging rate of 11 kW we recommend the Porsche Wall Connect Charger with a 60 amp hardwired circuit. For optimum home charging performance customers can order the optional Porsche Factory 19.2 kW charging option and pair that with a 100 amp hardwired dedicated charging circuit with the Porsche Wall Connect Charger.
 

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thanks for the update - yeah Porsche has gotten around to figuring that out

ROFL laughing for the note that the NEMA 6-50, 14-30, 6-30 can "increase" charging times

OMG - these people just can't get it right - 14-50 and 6-50 ARE EXACTLY THE SAME in terms of charging time - both are 240V @ 50 amps…or 9.6 kW charge rate

only the two 14-30 and/or 6-30 _will_ increase charging time - and it's not that they "can" increase charging time - they _WILL_ increase charging time - because they are only 30 amps vs. 50 amps - or 5.76 kW charge rate.

you know what else will increase charging time? using a crappy EVSE that has been nerf'd by the manufacturing to only charge at 20 amps because it overheats!!

however they are 100% correct - use a Hubble 14-50 or 6-50 commercial/industrial grade plug!
thanks for the update - yeah Porsche has gotten around to figuring that out

ROFL laughing for the note that the NEMA 6-50, 14-30, 6-30 can "increase" charging times

OMG - these people just can't get it right - 14-50 and 6-50 ARE EXACTLY THE SAME in terms of charging time - both are 240V @ 50 amps…or 9.6 kW charge rate

only the two 14-30 and/or 6-30 _will_ increase charging time - and it's not that they "can" increase charging time - they _WILL_ increase charging time - because they are only 30 amps vs. 50 amps - or 5.76 kW charge rate.

you know what else will increase charging time? using a crappy EVSE that has been nerf'd by the manufacturing to only charge at 20 amps because it overheats!!

however they are 100% correct - use a Hubble 14-50 or 6-50 commercial/industrial grade plug!
Correct @daveo4EV, my gen 2 and 3 Tesla wall connectors, on separate 50 amp circuits and plugged into NEMA 14-50 outlets have worked flawlessly charging at 9+kw. When i eventually have the CT, the gen 3 will be swapped with the new j1772 wall connector as you had done in a recent thread.

Porsche Taycan NEMA 6-50 install - I did it today - it can be almost trivial…it took me 2 hours! 43B30561-1E0C-412B-9CFA-9FB0BD38331A
Porsche Taycan NEMA 6-50 install - I did it today - it can be almost trivial…it took me 2 hours! 101851EE-F0BD-48F1-809C-10AFC724379A
Porsche Taycan NEMA 6-50 install - I did it today - it can be almost trivial…it took me 2 hours! 360BCC6A-C2C1-4A5C-A74C-25DC31BF72A3
 
 




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