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Not an expert here, but from what I’ve read the EPA has several testing protocols. Frequently used are a 2 cycle and a 5 cycle test. If a manufacturer chooses the simplified 2 cycle the EPA takes the number the car achieves and derates it to 70%. I believe Porsche chose the 2 cycle test for the Taycan. So, take those numbers and add 30% and that’s what the car tested at in the 2-cycle. As far as I know Tesla tends to use the 5-cycle approach where no derating factor is used. I also think I read somewhere the EPA recently modified the derating factor to 80%.

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Yep and this shows there is no standard EPA testing regime that actually works! The Tesla ranges are unachievable and the Taycan ranges are stupidly low.
 

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Do me a favor, post pictures of your actual mileage. Run the cars down to about 20% or lower battery and then show me the actual mileage. Thanks
 

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Been pretty happy seeing my range go up consistently. It's been between 30-45 degrees here consistently for the past week or so.

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Been pretty happy seeing my range go up consistently. It's been between 30-45 degrees here consistently for the past week or so.

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Just for fun, how many miles do you have ?? And do you drive the car down below 30% battery before you charge ??
 

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Just for fun, how many miles do you have ?? And do you drive the car down below 30% battery before you charge ??
Roughly 1600 miles (took delivery early October). I typically don't get below 30%...save for two long trips where I think I dipped to mid 20%.
 

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Roughly 1600 miles (took delivery early October). I typically don't get below 30%...save for two long trips where I think I dipped to mid 20%.
Understood. I have driven mine 7700 miles, i drive it down below 30%, sometimes even lower, so the "estimate" range has changed to "TRUE" range IMO. I uses to see numbers in the 213 range for 85% but over time and again, actually driving it down to see "real" range, I am now at 175-180 miles for 85% charge.
 

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Understood. I have driven mine 7700 miles, i drive it down below 30%, sometimes even lower, so the "estimate" range has changed to "TRUE" range IMO. I uses to see numbers in the 213 range for 85% but over time and again, actually driving it down to see "real" range, I am now at 175-180 miles for 85% charge.
Hmm...I'm also 4S+ and at sea-level, haha. Dunno what the elevation is where you're at. I'm hoping to do some road trips once nice weather comes back around, so I'll have my fingers crossed. Both for actual range and more EA stations.
 

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