Report: New battery coming to reduce Taycan weight by 400kg and increasing charge rate and power?

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I've for long thought about a modular battery pack that you just swap out at what were petrol stations.

My issue with running a business is I've got too used to high margin and minimal capital expenditure. So something like this would increase my stress levels quite significantly!

Potentially, future battery tech could be retrofitted. Ultimately it's just a cell with more advanced tech and materials inside of it.

Perhaps Porsche and others will provide a "battery upgrade" programme (for a high price of course) that brings older model range to that of the latest longer range models.

So mitigating any huge depreciation.
I can imagine that the same EV battery suppliers who provide battery cells to the car manufacturers will also develop a business supplying the public for after-sales repairs/replacements/upgrades. Tire manufacturers do so for quite a while already, and 12V battery suppliers too, for example.
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I'm 49 years old. I see people of my age or even younger dying of cancer or other ilnesses all the time time. Not to speak of the idiot in Moscow who could go in a meltdown and start WW3.

Don't delay because of whatever next version you think you should be waiting more. You ain't gonna drive squat once you're 6 feet under.

This is yout life, make every second legendary.
 

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100 kg is all that's necessary and EV's in general would weight less than ICE street cars for equivalent products.

BMW 4 series AWD = 3900'ish lbs
Tesla Model 3 AWD = 4090'ish lbs

shed 100 kg - and the Model 3 is lighter than the BMW 4 series…

we're already pretty close.
 
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I'm 49 years old. I see people of my age or even younger dying of cancer or other ilnesses all the time time. Not to speak of the idiot in Moscow who could go in a meltdown and start WW3.

Don't delay because of whatever next version you think you should be waiting more. You ain't gonna drive squat once you're 6 feet under.

This is yout life, make every second legendary.
Yves, I have 52 and exactly the same thoughts. Let's live and enjoy! Carpe diem
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I’m 54 and have been transformed back to being 24 again, had mine for 5 months now and am looking at placing an order soon just to make sure there is no gap between the end of the warranty on this one and the next one! Just going to assume an 18 month wait for it. Happy to take the evolution as it comes and enjoy each one.
 

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You ain't gonna drive squat once you're 6 feet under.
wait, I was told: Heaven is driving a Porsche.

Ok, I got nothing. But I agree with the sentiment. I waited way to long to get my first Porsche. There is always a reason to wait (assuming no financial burden)
 

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I'm 49 years old. I see people of my age or even younger dying of cancer or other ilnesses all the time time. Not to speak of the idiot in Moscow who could go in a meltdown and start WW3.

Don't delay because of whatever next version you think you should be waiting more. You ain't gonna drive squat once you're 6 feet under.

This is yout life, make every second legendary.
You get it.
 


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:CWL: Just above vaporware. Group14 doesn't make batteries. They have designed a powder to improve the performance of lithium battery anodes. And before the $400 million they just raised this month, they had raised a grand total of about $36 million to date. Let's just say, they're still early stage...
 

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I'm 49 years old. I see people of my age or even younger dying of cancer or other ilnesses all the time time. Not to speak of the idiot in Moscow who could go in a meltdown and start WW3.

Don't delay because of whatever next version you think you should be waiting more. You ain't gonna drive squat once you're 6 feet under.

This is yout life, make every second legendary.
I agree. I kept my Tesla M3 for three years. That was one year too long. At my age, going forward I am planning to replace my EV every 18 to 24 months.
 

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Seems scarcely credible.
The current big battery weighs 650kg so a 400kg reduction for similar performance is highly unlikely given the rate of battery development over the last century.
A 40kg reduction would be more credible :)
Yes. More than halving weight and extending range. In the future sure. Long future. Sounds like concept BD.
 

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The Taycan battery looks nicely modular to me.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the future of car servicing is substantially about servicing the battery, maybe just replacing cells which have dropped a bit, maybe rebuilding with new technology cells but something like that.

Let’s face it an electric motor has one moving part, not multiple pistons, valves, springs, camshafts and cranks all running at temperatures which degrade the lubricant. An IC engine has a lot of continuously deteriorating parts so with EVs the emphasis seems to me to be maintaining the battery which is the equivalent of all those steadily degrading parts in an IC engined car.

If I were a young man I would see this as a business opportunity.
Totally agree.

Porsche may not see it in its interests, but priced right as an "upgrade" on cars later in their lives, it would really help residuals etc.
 

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I've for long thought about a modular battery pack that you just swap out at what were petrol stations.

My issue with running a business is I've got too used to high margin and minimal capital expenditure. So something like this would increase my stress levels quite significantly!

Potentially, future battery tech could be retrofitted. Ultimately it's just a cell with more advanced tech and materials inside of it.

Perhaps Porsche and others will provide a "battery upgrade" programme (for a high price of course) that brings older model range to that of the latest longer range models.

So mitigating any huge depreciation.

to replace the current battery costs about $60,000 for the part alone. My guess is, a battery swap is even harder than an engine swap.

The car would essentially be a write off if the battery fails on 5 year or older car. The rest of the parts, including the faulty battery, having a high resale vale as parts.
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