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The boredom caused by EV to me is the main problem. I couldn’t live just with the Taycan. I see EV taking over on all the application where going from A to B is required.
For all of us going from A to… wherever it is fun to drive EV will never replace a good old fashioned v12, V8 or flat six.
If I have got my family with me taycan all day. Of family not around, V8 all day…
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I am on my second EV. First was a 2017 Model S100D. Just 4 weeks ago I got a ST turbo (so the new J1 II). I don't see myself going back to ice. My wife has a 2018 V6 Macan S that is great to drive but performance is nowhere near the S100D and certainly not the TT. And if you want great noise you want more than a V6. On top of that I rather like the Porsche sound the Tycan makes, it reminds me of a star wars speeder.
If somebody brings out a great 2 seater with a big trunk (EV or ICE) I do see myself adding that. Otherwise local and long trips are done with the Taycan. I never travel when others do so queuing at chargers is never a problem.
 

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After buying an EV, less than 1% of drivers go back to gas-powered cars

https://electrek.co/2024/12/10/afte...you go electric, you,return to an ICE vehicle
I have 2 years on the lease, so it will be a decision to make at that time, but I am not likely to get another EV. Not that I wouldn't buy one again, just that I think living on the east coast USA, the public charging is too spotty.
There are things I really like about this car, it is a great drive for one, but if I were to do a road trip I would opt for our ICE car(s).
 

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As an engineer I appreciate how much superior to an IC engine an electric motor is so I prefer an EV in principle and I actually haven't driven either of my V8 engined cars since I got my Taycan.
I do think it is very dependant on the infrastructure where you live and the sort of journeys you take whether they are acceptably convenient or not.

I am slightly bemused that the shortcomings of IC engines are still seen by older enthusiasts as things to enjoy, and I write this as an older enthusiast.
 

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No chance of either my wife or me ever going back to an ICEV.

Once the Tesla Supercharger network in the US is fully available to all EV brands, that will remove the final small reservations we might have had about replacing our last ICEV with an EV.
 


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I am slightly bemused that the shortcomings of IC engines are still seen by older enthusiasts as things to enjoy, and I write this as an older enthusiast.
I don’t think something has to be technically superior to be preferred. PDK is pretty much technically superior to manual in every way except for weight. But I still bought a manual because it’s what I prefer to drive, despite its shortcomings compared to PDK.

I’m just saying, one can prefer something with shortcomings for a variety of reasons. And typically in those cases, the reasons don’t even particularly matter in a way that can be argued against because we’re just talking about personal preferences.
 
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Every time my Porsche is in the shop, and I get a ICE Macan, I am forcefully reminded how awful ICE driving is, particularly on long distance. The noise and the vibrations fry me! I would never ever waste a penny on an ICE car.
For me it's the sluggishness.

I even experienced this in my 991.1 Targa 4S compared to my wife's 2018 Model 3 at the time...it made my car feel so broken. That's what led to the first Taycan.
 


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Taycan is a great EV on so many levels:
  • [UK] company car tax benefits
  • Fast
  • Quiet
  • Comfortable
  • Handles very well
  • Pre-conditioning
  • Home charging

I find an EV is poor when it comes to:
  • Paying BIK on the list price when my company is only getting a tax benefit on a percentage of the book value. For a Taycan this is quite a gulf
  • UK public charging network: a lack of decent chargers, crazy price per kH, qty of chargers out of order, qty of chargers which won’t get anywhere near the speed I want, some cables are too short to comfortably reach the Taycan
  • Battery density / size / efficiency isn’t enough for long trips. Car in garage for the next 2 days and loan car only had 50% charge and couldn’t do enough miles to get me to my office and then a school pickup, home and then back to the dealership tomorrow
  • The ludicrous process to manage apps in order that I can charge at home: managing my charging hardware, energy provider, my car software (2 EV household). And then the huge array of public charging apps to navigate

Would I get another?
Yes, depending on tax rules at the time and battery / car efficiency improvements.
Ideally, I want a 500 mile range. Therefore, when I’m running the battery between 30% and 80%, it will have a realistic average usable range of 250 miles. And I wouldn’t be constantly thinking about charging and I could pretty much avoid public charging altogether.
 

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I'm out of the EV game for the next 4-5 years especially after the whole NACS debacle in the US. 800v charging expansion in the US just hasn't been at the pace which I had thought it was going to get to by now when I originally bought my Taycan 4S. LGChem batteries also bit me twice as well (Bolt / Taycan).

EV Growth has been high over the past couple years, but that also means a lot of people with no means to charge them at their primary residence is also putting additional strains on public charging locations. Over the past month, I've seen an explosion of people at work getting new EVs cause manufacturers are lease fire selling them with free DC charging and now those people are all trying to fight for resources cause it's their primary way of charging.

With my driving pattern, a PHEV just made more sense so I went that route with the Cayenne E-Hybrid. My experience with it has been that it's just a brilliant and seamless system. Sure I get 1.7-1.9 mi/kWh, but when you compare that to numbers from a similarly sized EV, it's really not bad at all. My only complaint so far is how long it's taking me to break in the miles on the ICE motor. It's just as quiet if not quieter than the Taycan even when the motor is on. Off the line is just as instantaneous and can be just as eager. You don't even notice when the 8-speed transmission shifts.

Sportiness wise, the Taycan is sporty for what it is. But in the end it's still a 5,000+ lb car. The way it drives can't compare to the 718 Spyder that has now replaced it for spirited driving duties.

I considered the Macan EV and a 992 as well. But in the end, the decision that I made that makes the most sense for me and gave me the most enjoyment is what I have now. Now if I can just get a Spyder RS allocation.
 

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I have no idea the methodology in their polling, but it's not accurate in my experience. There are certainly advantages to EVs in maintenence, upkeep and running costs, but I personally would absolutely go back to ICE. The Taycan is a great car, but it lacks emotion, as do all EVs (except perhaps the Ioniq 5 N from what I've read). The people I know with EVs are also 50/50 on whether they'd buy another or go back to ICE. The only people that I know that seem 100% certain to buy another EV are those that treat cars like simple A to B appliances and are driving a Model S or X.
 

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We have two EV's and two home chargers. This weekend I charged on a DCFC for the first time since our summer roadtrip through europe - I basically never charge on public chargers. There is PLENTY of chargers here so infrastructure is not really a concern. On the longer trips I'm fine with swapping driver every 2-3 hours - But I would not mind having the range of the facelifted Taycan though.

I've grown up at a car dealership, and I used to do rallycross in my sparetime. But honestly I don't miss the "soul" of an ICE car. Every time I get in one I'm surprised how much I prefer an EV. To be fair the average danish ICE car is a sub 200hk diesel, so I that's not helping either.
 

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I definitely have had my frustrations but ultimately voted with my wallet and bought a KIA EV6 as a second car ...love electric cars..not crazy about some of the early adopter issues but ultimately went for another one! BTW, it cost me $9 for electricity last month (special off peak rate) for TWO electric cars..hard to beat that!
I just went for an EV6 as my second EV as well. Not looking back.
 

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I wish I had more EV choice because I can't go back to ICE. It's just too sluggish feeling, and all the ludicrous upkeep is nuts. Oil, plugs, belts, all of it.
Every time I look at some old car online and I see the undercarriage and all of the oil leaks and various seals and components... it honestly just turns me off to the whole thing. I'm not saying EVs don't have their share of "dirty" parts, but the idea of all the ICE messiness just doesn't appeal anymore. What a much cleaner means of transportation.
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