Taycan GTS v BMW iX M60 v Chinese Teslas: DRAG RACE

[RAHRCR]

That 2 speed gear box….

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[WuffvonTrips]

They all beat the Taycan in the brake test

 

[RAHRCR]

They all beat the Taycan in the brake test

Given that its the lightest vehicle in that line-up, I dont really understand that.

 

[Vercingetorix]

I wonder if a lack of brake temperature contributed to the longer braking distance.

 

[stoneunhenged]

Would have been nice to see a Turbo S square off.

 

[WuffvonTrips]

Would have been nice to see a Turbo S square off.

Carwow did a 10.3s standing 1/4 mile in a Turbo S sedan on the same track (and a 10.9 in a Turbo).

 

[DES_MX]

Truth is Chinese manufacturers are really stepping up the game and cost/performance wise are becoming crazy good. The top ones like Geely with Zeekr001 and the Lotus Eletre (also Geely essentially), as well as the new refreshed Polestar 2 with many optimisations and tweaks (the Performance version).
The issue with them is though - no heritage and no guarantee how long each one will stay in the game.

 

[whitex]

Carwow did a 10.3s standing 1/4 mile in a Turbo S sedan on the same track (and a 10.9 in a Turbo).

Without launch mode Taycans are not as impressive. This shows with the rolling races too. That has been my only big disappointment with Taycan drivetrain design - why lock away the top end of power behind a launch mode only for drag races?!? If I wanted power only for drag racing I would have gotten a Plaid Model S, which leaves even Turbo S in Launch mode in the dust (for half the price too). This is also the reason why I bought a Taycan Turbo and not Turbo S - the only spec difference in power is in Launch Mode, for which I have zero use.

 

[snstevens]

Given that its the lightest vehicle in that line-up, I dont really understand that.

The Taycan is known to have a longer breaking distance than some other Porsches.

I was at PECLA and when we entered turns in a Taycan, they told us we had to start breaking earlier than the Porsche 718 GT 4RS we were driving. However, the Taycan braking distance was better than a 718 GT4.

 

[WuffvonTrips]

Without launch mode Taycans are not as impressive.

Agree that it's disappointing that the extra power can't be called on at other times (e.g. using the centre button that all other models have on the sport chrono wheel), but <0.2s slower without LC for the Turbo CT is good enough for me to not bother with the faff of LC.
PDriveTV are one of the few channels to have timed 0-100 kph with and without LC- Turbo sedan at the smallest difference of 0.10s, 4CT the largest at 0.43s (no data for 4S or Turbo S, but IIRC Autocar NZ timed a 0.5s difference for the Turbo S)-

 

[f1eng]

Given that its the lightest vehicle in that line-up, I dont really understand that.

Yes, very surprising.
The thing that impressed me most at the Silverstone experience was the brakes for such a heavy car and the one stop I have needed from high speed on the actual road was impressive on mine.

IME doing drag races without telling people which tyres are on the car is leaving out the most relevant data of all.

 

[RAHRCR]

The Taycan is known to have a longer breaking distance than some other Porsches.

I was at PECLA and when we entered turns in a Taycan, they told us we had to start breaking earlier than the Porsche 718 GT 4RS we were driving. However, the Taycan braking distance was better than a 718 GT4.

Makes sense. My comment is related to the other vehicles in the video.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

Makes sense. My comment is related to the other vehicles in the video.

I guess I, too, was surprised the Taycan didn't outbreak the others by a good margin. At the same time, it seems it was 1 test? With an unclear tire situation? Even track surface alone could explain the differences. And - gimme a break - "on my mark, brake!" as the test methodology?

I like the carwow guy, but I am puzzled by the enormous success of inane drag-race videos. He's come a long way from a ratty 996 (the subject of his first videos, and how I bumped into his channel).

 

[whitex]

IME doing drag races without telling people which tyres are on the car is leaving out the most relevant data of all.

I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that they just used stock tires which come with the car. Taycans may not come with the absolute best tires. Since I picked my car up in the winter, I drove with GoodYear UltraGrip gen1's on the car for the first couple of months. In the spring I put on the original Continental ProContact all seasons and found the car noticeably less sure-footed in the wet than the GoodYear winter tire. I don't have quantifiable data yet, but will try and do a max stop test in the wet, using the same same spot before and after I swap in the winters, note max G the car records on both - still not fully scientific, but should give me some idea which tire grips better.

 

[TXSchnee]

The iX M60 comes with Pirelli PZeros if you spec the performance tire (in the US). They also have amazing brakes, as I can attest to mine phantom braking from 60mph and almost giving me whiplash. That said, there is a reason I got rid of it after only 2 months (lots and lots of electrical issues and gremlins, BMWNA refused buyback as it was under multiple recalls).

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