I’ve felt your frustration,Well...almost 4 years ago Borkkert, Korner, and even Mauer seemed proud of all the work they'd put into every detail of the E......making it...."the new icon for Porsche"......and one that...."will carry us into a new era".
Anyway.....pretty obvious (to me at least) that they were announcing to the world that they'd conceived more than just an electric car on that design floor. Of course I could be wrong.....can't look into their soul's, can only watch & listen to their words.
Much for the company & the 'E' changed in the fall of 2017.....Herr Blume announced the design was 'fixed'. We heard no more from the design team and the mule body hit the roads.
All that said....the car will do fine. It will be a success, and it certainly will be head-n-shoulders above most of what's available in the near term.
I am sympathetic to those who had expected something different, something exceptional.....I get it.
As I've said before, I'll take my #1 slot. Ours will be relegated to dog-hauler status for the wife... at least for a year.
The E would have been different but it's not the end of the world .
Parting thought....does it grind anyone else's gears when people tell you...."It's just a car".
As luck would have it, the one across the street directly facing my car was out of service. There are a couple more in the area that the detective is going to scrub through. But, it's not very hopeful. People suck!Any chance businesses in the area have security cameras?
I would never say anything but what a terrible thing. Such a beautiful car. At least nobody got hurt.This just happened to my car. While it was parked. While I was eating at my favorite taco joint with friends and family for my dinner.
Of course the person fled the scene...
I've been hearing..."could've been worse" "it's just a car" for the past week now.
Understood....however rake of the E front window was greater on 'E'......so maybe we are comparing 'sleek' vs 'athletic'.Controversial opinion.
The E has a forward tilting roof line and also huge frontal overhang.
The taycan has much more athletic and leaned back stance with shorter overhangs.
And mind you we are comparing a mule to a concept car that’s like comparing your wife at her wedding day to when she wakes up after a rough party.
I would like to believe we’re seeing false body panels, but I’m afraid that’s just not the case. The Panels on the mules are clearly production for a number of reasons. First take a look at the fit and finish, especially at the seams and joints. Second, the panels will house electronic channels, vents and other features they can’t duplicate easily with false panels without great expense. Third, any misfit of false panels could result in rattling/noise that would disrupt some testing. Fourth, they’ll want to run extensive testing with the production panels on to test their function.I’ve felt your frustration,
Pretty sure the majority of members don’t think this is... ‘just a car’
There is a lot of passion in these threads, those posting, absolutely give a shit
This thread gives one a chance to vent, (probably under-utilised)... lol
The car is a major financial outlay for most, participants are understandably emotional
Taycan has been sooo long in coming
The mission E is/was outstanding, Porsche nailed it and captured the worlds attention and EXPECTATION
Like a lot of others, I think the mules have been and are comparatively FUGLY, like ....WTF
While the bones of the E are there, those who criticise the mules are accused of arrogance... how dare we....!!!
Loyalists trust Porsche to deliver, (maybe rightly so), they comment accordingly,
but in doing so anger and frustrate those who feel they have legitimate concerns
This is the wailing wall thread... BUT... in an attempt to offer some hope...
I believe there is huge evidence to suggest the car will morf into something that strongly resembles the E
It surprises me there are some that still think the mules are close to or (up to 100%) representative of what we’re ‘going to get’
I subscribe to the contentious ‘false panel’ theory
I for one, see a completely false ‘rear end’ on the mules
(starting 6 inches from the central pillar, running all the way down to the spoiler, including at present a false rear screen)
(See Paulo’s latest posting on spy pics thread, 2nd shot, the ‘kink in the roof is so obvious at this photo angle (...imo bloated and disgusting)
However, once removed though, the car will, imo (and a few others) change it’s appearance significantly
Revealing a duct and spoiler similar to the E....accordingly the roof will taper in, aesthetically widening the hips (something you’ll appreciate)
The silhouette, length, width, stance etc is so similar to the E
To be the car most want, the rear needs fixed (and I believe will be)
AND fantastically, (just to hand) new evidence suggests the front guard/bonnet might fall significantly sharper than the mules,
(Supported by PAG-J1 undercover shot) tilting the headlights slightly, strengthening stance /more aggressive look
Again all pure speculation... but plenty of promising signs
IF all said is true, the car will look like the beloved E minus the suicide doors plus mirrors
Aesthetically, satisfying most people’s concerns
I’m definitely not taking back my deposit yet
Can’t agreeI would like to believe we’re seeing false body panels, but I’m afraid that’s just not the case. The Panels on the mules are clearly production for a number of reasons. First take a look at the fit and finish, especially at the seams and joints. Second, the panels will house electronic channels, vents and other features they can’t duplicate easily with false panels without great expense. Third, any misfit of false panels could result in rattling/noise that would disrupt some testing. Fourth, they’ll want to run extensive testing with the production panels on to test their function.
It’s easy to solve all these problems by using production panels and taping false elements to the panels. That’s what we’re seeing on the mules.
Yes, the final car will look quite similar to the mules.
I think it’s going to be 1.38mThe specifications for Mission E states a height of 1,30m which is pretty much the same as the 911.
But from the pictures of the test cars it's pretty clear that it will be more like the Panamera (1,42m)
It might even be slightly lower, but rounded up to 1.38mI think it’s going to be 1.38m
I bet 138cm in normal rise height and probably 135cm in low rise mode........It might even be slightly lower, but rounded up to 1.38m
Hmm..not so sure..I bet 138cm in normal rise height and probably 135cm in low rise mode........