What are you paying for electricity per kWh?

[daveo4EV]

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$0.31443 per kWh for electricity + $0.06639 per kWh for "Electric Generation Charges" in California.

We're charged at $0.24986 for the first 315 kWh. We always go beyond 315 kWh per month, so the next tier costs $0.31443. I'm considering charging the vehicle above and beyond our normal household usage. The $0.06639/kWh is constant.

Thank goodness for free Electrify America for now.

PG&E EVA plan - cheap electricity midnight to 3 pm - and NO tiers - makes driving the car super cheap...

https://www.pge.com/en_US/residenti...cle-base-plan/electric-vehicle-base-plan.page

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[chrisk]

$0.31443 per kWh for electricity + $0.06639 per kWh for "Electric Generation Charges" in California.

We're charged at $0.24986 for the first 315 kWh. We always go beyond 315 kWh per month, so the next tier costs $0.31443. I'm considering charging the vehicle above and beyond our normal household usage. The $0.06639/kWh is constant.

Thank goodness for free Electrify America for now.

I am also in NorCal and I pay $0.22/kWH off peak and $0.24 for part-peak. (There will be more expensive full-peak in the summer). I do not pay any flat cost per kWH. The only flat cost I pay is $0.328/day delivery charge which is about $10 delivery fee per month.

I have solar and I sell any excess back to PGE (but they only pay 1/10 of the price they would charge for the same amount of energy..) so I actually wish the kwh was more expensive since I am energy producer . And solar panels produce more during the peak time (daytime when the sun is up), so the more expensive the peak cost is the better if you have solar.

 

[chrisk]

PG&E EVA plan - cheap electricity midnight to 3 pm - and NO tiers - makes driving the car super cheap...

but then you have to use charging timers and every morning you will have the anxiety of having a drained 12v battery

 

[kort]

these are the rates I am at.

Residential customers:	Per Month​
Base charge	$4.50​
Usage - per kWh (kilowatt hour)	$0.083570​
Power cost adjustment - per kWh (kilowatt hour)	$0.02184​

no TOD discounts

 

[lubricious]

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PG&E EVA plan - cheap electricity midnight to 3 pm - and NO tiers - makes driving the car super cheap...

https://www.pge.com/en_US/residenti...cle-base-plan/electric-vehicle-base-plan.page

Definitely considered it! Thanks for the info.

We have two toddlers and need the electricity usage during peak periods when they get back from preschool at 530pm, unfortunately. Thankfully, have been able to get away with most charging at EA stations and used my home charger only when time is short.

when I start using more miles and have no time to get to an EA station, will definitely make the switch.

 

[loysha]

Moscow, RUSSIA

Нome charging power 22 kWh
day (7: 00-23: 00) 1 kWh - 0,06 $
night (23: 00-7: 00) 1 kWh - 0,02 $

Public charging station power 50 kWh, 1 kWh - 0,23 $

 

[W1NGE]

Moscow, RUSSIA

Нome charging power 22 kWh
day (7: 00-23: 00) 1 kWh - 0,06 $
night (23: 00-7: 00) 1 kWh - 0,02 $

Public charging station power 50 kWh, 1 kWh - 0,23 $

Cheap as chips!

 

[Miwa]

PG&E EVA plan - cheap electricity midnight to 3 pm - and NO tiers - makes driving the car super cheap...

I did the math when we bought a Bolt 3 years ago with real data from my smart meter and the spreadsheets PG&E lets you download. The EV-A and EV-B plans were even at best and often worse than staying on the non-TOU plan. Even with charging the Bolt at night and with the wife doing 15k+ mi/year on it. The main problem is that peak time goes until 9PM, and the vast majority of our energy use would be during peak times.

Of course, it's dirt-simple to charge the Bolt at night, I set a 5:30am departure time for the charging and it'd start charging at whatever time was necessary to be ready by then (which is when the car would be used daily).

 

[daveo4EV]

my math showed us saving money due to the lack of tiers- and the solar also factored in - with greater credits for the solar produced during peek/mid-peak…but everyone’s situation is different - i worked with the family and also managed to shift some load from “peak” and that also helped.

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