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Nice report again, and some very nice pictures. Wonderful to see the landscape. Reports like yours will help and encourage a lot of new EV drivers to dare to take some trips. Very much appreciated!
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thank you for your pcis and videos! :clap:
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Day 7: Glasgow (Scotland) -> Liverpool (England)

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Today is a transit day and not a very exciting one! First we had to get a COVID test to be allowed back into Ireland. We parked in the spacious Q Park at St Enoch which was 100 meters from the test centre.

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Saw my first Ice Grey Taycan parked right outside the test centre. Configurator doesn't do that colour any justice.

We got our results quickly and thankfully both my co-driver and I were clear and got required travel certificate (required by Ireland in addition to full vaccination proof) very promptly.

As we were going back the same route as we arrived to Scotland – we decided we might as well have the same charging strategy. There is a lot of merit in using charging locations that were successful previously. So we headed out of Glasgow and onto the M6 for the long trip down south.

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Stopping at IONITY Gretna Green for a short battery top-up before continuing along the M6. These four chargers were busy as always and a lovely Crayon/Chalk Taycan just nabbed the last free spot as we were pulling in! As I mentioned earlier in the trip – queuing at these stations is very disciplined – with a dedicated waiting area (rare) – and we were soon charging our own Taycan for a quick 13 minute charge to take in 21.5 kWh

After charging – we grabbed some food at the Welcome Break nearby. When we came out and unlocked the car - the PCM had stopped the active navigation. It had also decided to stop connecting to the cell service – though there was plenty of strong coverage. As our next charging stop wasn't on the "offline" POIs stored in the car and it had wiped the history – it was impossible to add the location as a waypoint when re-creating our route again.

This is a very, very frustrating issue with our car. It has happened way too often on this trip – car loses connectivity – and it makes road tripping much harder – plotting complicated routes and using the planner to gauge battery levels at each stop. Porsche needs to fix this and as our car heads for both its one year anniversary and first 30,000 km service – it has made me more resolved to insist on a fix and raise serious complaints about this issue.

It should be noted when this happens – I also lose Bluetooth, Wifi and CarPlay connectivity – making alternative navigation options outside of paper maps impossible.

This issue – including the randomness of it – really frustrates me.

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As we are getting the ferry back to Ireland tomorrow – the plan was to have enough power for tomorrow to not require any charging stops – we also stopped in on MFG Crow Orchard – for a healthy charge closer to Liverpool.

We plugged in for 34 mins and in that time we pulled 64 kWh at a solid rate of 110 - 140 kWH from these 400V chargers. This is where the optional 150 kW DC charger (voltage converter) is worth it. Though 400V chargers are more common in Ireland than United Kingdom.

We now had enough battery power to get to our hotel in Liverpool and to the ferry in Holyhead the next day.

Pulling into our hotel for the night – Crowne Plaza Liverpool City Centre – we noticed an available Polar 50kW charger in the hotel car park.

Our road trip philosophy is to always grab charge – even if not required – if its easy and convenient – so we topped off the battery while we checked-in.

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The days charging stats:

LocationStart SOC %End SOC %kWh addedCostDurationAmbient TempBattery TempCharger TypeNetwork
Gretna Green48%80%21.57 kWhGBP £6.4713 mins1032DC 350 kWIONITY
MFG Crow Orchard27%93%64 kWhGBP £25.0034 mins11.538DC 150 kWMFG
Crowne Plaza Liverpool84%100%13.5 kWhGBP £4.4240 mins1034DC 50 kWPOLAR

Today we did 358 km over 6:10 hours, with an average speed of 59 km/h, consuming 25.5 kWh/100km.
 
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Day 7: Glasgow (Scotland) -> Liverpool (England)

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Today is a transit day and not a very exciting one! First we had to get a COVID test to be allowed back into Ireland. We parked in the spacious Q Park at St Enoch which was 100 meters from the test centre.

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Saw my first Ice Grey Taycan parked right outside the test centre. Configurator doesn't do that colour any justice.

We got our results quickly and thankfully both my co-driver and I were clear and got required travel certificate (required by Ireland in addition to full vaccination proof) very promptly.

As we were going back the same route as we arrived to Scotland – we decided we might as well have the same charging strategy. There is a lot of merit in using charging locations that were successful previously. So we headed out of Glasgow and onto the M6 for the long trip down south.

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Stopping at IONITY Gretna Green for a short battery top-up before continuing along the M6. These four chargers were busy as always and a lovely Crayon/Chalk Taycan just nabbed the last free spot as we were pulling in! As I mentioned earlier in the trip – queuing at these stations is very disciplined – with a dedicated waiting area (rare) – and we were soon charging our own Taycan for a quick 13 minute charge to take in 21.5 kWh

After charging – we grabbed some food at the Welcome Break nearby. When we came out and unlocked the car - the PCM had stopped the active navigation. It had also decided to stop connecting to the cell service – though there was plenty of strong coverage. As our next charging stop wasn't on the "offline" POIs stored in the car and it had wiped the history – it was impossible to add the location as a waypoint when re-creating our route again.

This is a very, very frustrating issue with our car. It has happened way too often on this trip – car loses connectivity – and it makes road tripping much harder – plotting complicated routes and using the planner to gauge battery levels at each stop. Porsche needs to fix this and as our car heads for both its one year anniversary and first 30,000 km service – it has made me more resolved to insist on a fix and raise serious complaints about this issue.

It should be noted when this happens – I also lose Bluetooth, Wifi and CarPlay connectivity – making alternative navigation options outside of paper maps impossible.

This issue – including the randomness of it – really frustrates me.

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As we are getting the ferry back to Ireland tomorrow – the plan was to have enough power for tomorrow to not require any charging stops – we also stopped in on MFG Crow Orchard – for a healthy charge closer to Liverpool.

We plugged in for 34 mins and in that time we pulled 64 kWh at a solid rate of 110 - 140 kWH from these 400V chargers. This is where the optional 150 kW DC charger (voltage converter) is worth it. Though 400V chargers are more common in Ireland than United Kingdom.

We now had enough battery power to get to our hotel in Liverpool and to the ferry in Holyhead the next day.

Pulling into our hotel for the night – Crowne Plaza Liverpool City Centre – we noticed an available Polar 50kW charger in the hotel car park.

Our road trip philosophy is to always grab charge – even if not required – if its easy and convenient – so we topped off the battery while we checked-in.

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The days charging stats:

LocationStart SOC %End SOC %kWh addedCostDurationAmbient TempBattery TempCharger TypeNetwork
Gretna Green48%80%21.57 kWhGBP £6.4713 mins1032DC 350 kWIONITY
MFG Crow Orchard27%93%64 kWhGBP £25.0034 mins11.538DC 150 kWMFG
Crowne Plaza Liverpool84%100%13.5 kWhGBP £4.4240 mins1034DC 50 kWPOLAR

Today we did 358 km over 6:10 hours, with an average speed of 59 km/h, consuming 25.5 kWh/100km.
That connectivity loss would indeed be very frustrating - assume the effects of this disconnect no different anywhere else in the world! Will be interesting to see if this happens to us once we start some longer trips later this year - thx for the heads-up!
 

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This is a very, very frustrating issue with our car. It has happened way too often on this trip – car loses connectivity – and it makes road tripping much harder – plotting complicated routes and using the planner to gauge battery levels at each stop. Porsche needs to fix this and as our car heads for both its one year anniversary and first 30,000 km service – it has made me more resolved to insist on a fix and raise serious complaints about this issue.

It should be noted when this happens – I also lose Bluetooth, Wifi and CarPlay connectivity – making alternative navigation options outside of paper maps impossible.

Great report as usual @tigerbalm! Thanks for sharing. And very enjoyable to see with you photos.

your problems with the connectivity is something you also experienced on your Switzerland tour, isn’t it? It will be interesting to hear what, if the dealer finds anything. Since you loose all of your Bluetooth, WiFi and general connectivity, it is more than just loosing the cell coverage I would think. More like a faulty Gateway module??
 
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Day 8: Liverpool (England) -> Dublin (Ireland)

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Woke to a good view of the River Mersey and Liverpool Bay.

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We continue our transit back home, leaving our hotel in Liverpool with a 100% charge – heading almost directly west to Dublin via the Port at Holyhead, Wales.

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We pass under the River Mersey via the Kingsway Tunnel – the only toll we've had to pay in the United Kingdom on this entire trip. With the Dublin Port Tunnel being the other toll back in Ireland.

We head for Holyhead along the A55 for the easy hour and a half journey to the port.

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We get put into the quiet EV queue for the ferry.

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And we're quickly charging.

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Not the greenest source of electricity!



We left Holyhead right on time.



I did forget to put PVTS+ (Porsche Vehicle Tracking Service) into transport mode – so had to let the call centre know – as I got a theft alert shortly after underway.

Arriving into Dublin Port on time after a slightly bumpy crossing with a Force 6 wind on the Irish Sea. Unplug the car from the ship.

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And we arrive back at home thirty minutes later.

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The days charging stats:

LocationStart SOC %End SOC %kWh addedCostDurationAmbient TempBattery TempCharger TypeNetwork
Ulysses Car Ferry53%74%16.5 kWhFree3 hours 30 mins1127AC 7kWPodPoint

Today we did 214 km over 4:01 hours, with an average speed of 57 km/h, consuming 23.8 kWh/100km.
 
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That's all folks.

Thank you for following along our latest road-trip. Not as long or as many countries visited as previous trips but still very enjoyable and rewarding. Scotland delivered a great experience – especially considering how hastily this was planned and booked – and I'm sure we'll be back.

Destination charging in particular proved to be very successful in Scotland (and England) with an overnight charge achieved at every hotel we stayed at.

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Hotels during our trip

Check-inCheck-outProperty NameLocationNum of nightsDestination charger?Notes
Dec 27Dec 29Radisson Blu HotelEdinburgh2 daysTRUE4 x 7kW AC chargers – easy availability – in hotel's public car park.
Dec 29Dec 30Ness WalkInverness1 dayTRUE9 x 22kW AC chargers and 2 x 50kW DC chargers – access managed by hotel welcoming team – in hotel's car park.
Dec 30Jan 1Dunalastair Hotel SuitesPitlochry2 daysTRUE2 x 22kW AC chargers – nobody else used them during our stay – at rear of hotel.
Jan 1Jan 2Kimpton Blythswood Square Hotel, an IHG HotelGlasgow1 dayTRUE2 x 22kW AC chargers – public chargers right outside door of hotel run by ChargePlace Scotland – good availability when I was there.
Jan 2Jan 3Crowne Plaza Liverpool City CentreLiverpool1 dayTRUE1 x 50kW DC charger – in hotel car park – available when I was there
 
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Trip Summary

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DayDurationDistanceAverage SpeedAverage Consumption
Dec 27, 20218 hours 46 mins544 km68 km/h24.1 kWh/100km
Dec 28, 2021No drivingN/AN/AN/A
Dec 29, 20214 hours 10 mins258 km63 km/h23.6 kWh/100km
Dec 30, 20215 hours 59 mins348 km60 km/h24.5 kWh/100 km
Dec 31, 20215 hours 54 mins328 km57 km/h25.5 kWh/100 km
Jan 1, 20223 hours 16 mins183 km57 km/h23.2 kWh/100 km
Jan 2, 20226 hours 10 mins358 km59 km/h25.5 kWh/100 km
Jan 3, 20224 hours 1 mins214 km57 km/h23.8 kWh/100km

Total distance: 2,233 km.
 
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Thank you for posting about your road trip, Tigerbalm. Great read. Did much of the same route you described through Scotland a couple of years ago, in an ICE Audi. Would like to do again in an EV!
 

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Nice trip! Thanks for sharing 😊🙏
 
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Charging Summary

I converted any GBP£ charges into the actual Euro amount that hit either my bank account or that I was invoiced at.

DayLocationKindNetworkkWhCost (in €)
27 Dec 2021Car FerryAC 7kWPodPoint8.3€0.00
27 Dec 2021MFG Crow OrchardDC 150 kWMFG47.3€17.65
27 Dec 2021Gretna GreenDC 350 kWIONITY21.6€7.77
27 Dec 2021Radisson Blu HotelAC 7kWNone59€0.00
29 Dec 2021PerthDC 350 kWIONITY19.31€6.94
29 Dec 2021Ness Walk HotelDC 50 kWShell Recharge47.54€23.74
30 Dec 2021PerthDC 350 kWIONITY55.99€20.14
30 Dec 2021Dunalastair Hotel SuitesAC 22kWTesla Destination30.05€0.00
31 Dec 2021TescoAC 7 kWPodPoint2.52€0.00
31 Dec 2021Grantown-on-SpeyDC 50 kWChargePlace Scotland30.24€0.00
31 Dec 2021Dunalastair Hotel SuitesAC 22kWTesla Destination46.2€0.00
1 Dec 2022GlasgowAC 22kWChargePlace Scotland48.5€9.30
2 Dec 2022Gretna GreenDC 350 kWIONITY21.57€7.76
2 Dec 2022MFG Crow OrchardDC 150 kWMFG64€23.96
2 Dec 2022Crowne Plaza LiverpoolDC 50 kWPOLAR13.50€5.30
2 Dec 2022Car FerryAC 7KWPodPount24.5€0.00
Total515.62€122.56

A few observations:
  • ChargePoint Scotland never charged for the call centre started charge in Grantown-on-Spey.
  • I arrived back home in Ireland with a 71% state of charge – probably enough for a week or two's driving around Dublin. That charge is included in the figures above.
  • A blended/average cost per kWh of 23.7 euro cent.
  • IONITY costs for the speed of service delivers great value so long as you are getting the Porsche Charging Service discounted rate.
  • With a total distance of 2,233 km – the energy cost per km was 5.4 euro cent. A little less considering I arrived home with a 3/4 full battery.
  • Travelling on this road-trip I had to use a lot more charging services – compared to continental Europe where it was either destination chargers at hotels or IONITY.
  • We need more IONITY in the UK.
  • Where hotels provide paid destination charging – it tends to be pretty expensive – but I think if we want great destination charging facilities – we need to support the hotels that provide them.
 
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Charging Summary

I converted any GBP£ charges into the actual Euro amount that hit either my bank account or that I was invoiced at.

DayLocationKindNetworkkWhCost (in €)
27 Dec 2021Car FerryAC 7kWPodPoint8.3€0.00
27 Dec 2021MFG Crow OrchardDC 150 kWMFG47.3€17.65
27 Dec 2021Gretna GreenDC 350 kWIONITY21.6€7.77
27 Dec 2021Radisson Blu HotelAC 7kWNone59€0.00
29 Dec 2021PerthDC 350 kWIONITY19.31€6.94
29 Dec 2021Ness Walk HotelDC 50 kWShell Recharge47.54€23.74
30 Dec 2021PertyDC 350 kWIONITY55.99€20.14
30 Dec 2021Dunalastair Hotel SuitesAC 22kWTesla Destination30.05€0.00
31 Dec 2021TescoAC 7 kWPodPoint2.52€0.00
31 Dec 2021Grantown-on-SpeyDC 50 kWChargePlace Scotland30.24€0.00
31 Dec 2021Dunalastair Hotel SuitesAC 22kWTesla Destination46.2€0.00
1 Dec 2022GlasgowAC 22kWChargePlace Scotland48.5€9.30
2 Dec 2022Gretna GreenDC 350 kWIONITY21.57€7.76
2 Dec 2022MFG Crow OrchardDC 150 kWMFG64€23.96
2 Dec 2022Crowne Plaza LiverpoolDC 50 kWPOLAR13.50€5.30
Total515.62€122.56

A few observations:
  • ChargePoint Scotland never charged for the call centre started charge in Grantown-on-Spey.
  • I arrived back home in Ireland with a 71% state of charge – probably enough for a week or two's driving around Dublin. That charge is included in the figures above.
  • A blended/average cost per kWh of 23.7 euro cent.
  • IONITY costs for the speed of service delivers great value so long as you are getting the Porsche Charging Service discounted rate.
  • With a total distance of 2,233 km – the energy cost per km was 5.4 euro cent. A little less considering I arrived home with a 3/4 full battery.
  • Travelling on this road-trip I had to use a lot more charging services – compared to Europe where it was either destination chargers at hotels or IONITY.
  • We need more IONITY in the UK.
  • Where hotels provide paid destination charging – it tends to be pretty expensive – but I think if we want great destination charging facilities – we need to support the hotels that provide them.
Shame your trip wasn't this week as the snow has just arrived!
 
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