Winter Tire choice?

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I have narrowed the choice down to either.

Nokian Hakkapelitta R3

or Pirelli Scorpion Ice&Snow

Michelin X-ice snow is out of stock everywhere here. But the other two are available.

size will be
245/45R20 front
285/40r20 rear

in other words Porsche specified sizes.

The Hakkapelitta R3 is a proven winter tire that I have experience using on previous cars. However its very soft and has speedrating R (170km/h) also no porsche certification.

The Pirelli Scorpion Ice&Snow has porsche NFO certification and speed rating V (210km/h)

Does anyone have experience with either tire on the taycan?

I’m not considering michelin alpin and the other pirelli tires as they are not made for harsh winter with snow and ice.
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No experience from my point of view but would advise sticking with Porsche certified tyres in case there are issues.
 
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No experience from my point of view but would advise sticking with Porsche certified tyres in case there are issues.
The thing is that Porsche themself here in Sweden are selling lots of official OEM winter tire sets with non porsche certfied tires from both Nokian and Michelin.
 

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My dealer supplied the Hakkapeliitta R3, ofcourse I’m a bit biased, but I think Hakkapeliitta is always a safe choice if you want one of the best winter tyre.
 


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I have narrowed the choice down to either.

Nokian Hakkapelitta R3

or Pirelli Scorpion Ice&Snow

Michelin X-ice snow is out of stock everywhere here. But the other two are available.

size will be
245/45R20 front
285/40r20 rear

in other words Porsche specified sizes.

The Hakkapelitta R3 is a proven winter tire that I have experience using on previous cars. However its very soft and has speedrating R (170km/h) also no porsche certification.

The Pirelli Scorpion Ice&Snow has porsche NFO certification and speed rating V (210km/h)

Does anyone have experience with either tire on the taycan?

I’m not considering michelin alpin and the other pirelli tires as they are not made for harsh winter with snow and ice.
I'm currently using the Pirelli Scorpions as my winter tires on the RWD. I've had them on the car since November but have had zero snow/ice experience to date (f'ing global warming!) And so, while I can not yet comment on how these tires will handle snow and ice, I can state that they far exceeded my expectations in terms of handling, noise level and ride comfort at moderate speeds (~95 MPH).
 

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My dealer supplied the Hakkapeliitta R3, ofcourse I’m a bit biased, but I think Hakkapeliitta is always a safe choice if you want one of the best winter tyre.
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Nokian Hakkapelitta is good but for extreme weather conditions. If you drive on wet or dry winter roads, even on snowy (but not icy) roads then I would not suggest those tires. Braking performance on wet and dry surfaces is not the best.
 


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For my winter requirements I find the Pirelli PZero Winter NF0 perfect. High enough speed rating to make winter autobahn enjoyable and safe. Have driven as far north as Tromsø in Norway and lapland in Finland with no issues. And they even make sense in the much milder Irish winters where temps are lower than 7c – but more with freezing rain/ice than snow.

For sure they are not as specialised as the Hakkapelitta R3 – but I for one am delighted such a "high performance" winter all rounder as the Pirelli is available (and certified).
 

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Only two certified nf0 20 inch winter tires. Don’t know if it is important. Better takes something that can manage the heavy weight if the Taycan.

I have the Pirellis. No problems driving on snow in the alps last winter. Low speed. Performed well on the autobahn going there.

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...v-approved-or-suitable-tyres.7362/post-275104

Ps the Pirelli P zero winter is NF0 don’t know is the scorpion is too

Porsche Taycan Winter Tire choice? IMG_0257
 
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I'm trying to learn which winter tire has lower high speed road noise Pirelli P-Zero or Goodyear Ultragrip, does anyone switched between these?
 

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I'm trying to learn which winter tire has lower high speed road noise Pirelli P-Zero or Goodyear Ultragrip, does anyone switched between these?
Keep in mind that the EV version of the tire, if it exists, may include the sound absorbing foam strip tuned specifically to reducing the frequencies of road noise that are most noticeable in an EV. For example, the NF0 version of the Michelin PS4 has this strip. BTW the foam strip interferes with the use of emergency spray sealant in the case of a tire puncture.
 

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Keep in mind that the EV version of the tire, if it exists, may include the sound absorbing foam strip tuned specifically to reducing the frequencies of road noise that are most noticeable in an EV. For example, the NF0 version of the Michelin PS4 has this strip. BTW the foam strip interferes with the use of emergency spray sealant in the case of a tire puncture.
The Michelin website does not mention acoustic in NF0 sizes. Other sizes yes.

Porsche Taycan Winter Tire choice? IMG_6135


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I am convert to Hakkapelitta. I had Blizzaks before (on 3 cars), then Scorpios (on 2 cars, including 987), and after I put Hakkapelitta on my XC90T8, I have exactly what works in my area for heavy car and road conditions we encounter. Granted nobody here will be driving their Taycans through snow drifts, but Hakkapelitta excels in those deep snow and ice under conditions.
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