Taycan drops camo revealing headlights, tail lights, rear side window

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For me the step in to the electric market is well done with the Taycan and to be honest the mules maybe looks like panameras but belive me the final version looks great in it´s very special Taycan way. Frankfurt will show a small and very sporty 4 door car which looks really nice and a lot of the people getting back their deposit wouldn´t be happy with their decission.........
Only my idealistic view.
Have you seen the finished version yet?

There's a user called PAG_J1 who's seen the finished car and said it was very similar to the Mission E, and just want to get as much info as possible.
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There are so many porsche dealers and informations the personal gets long before market start. Trainings and sales meetings you may have a look at some further information, pictures, sketches..........JP Performance for example shows during a walk through the porsche trainee program on youtube that they already work on the taycan for a long time.
Doors and mirrors are different and a bit of the roof line but i looks quit good and more like a Mission E than a panamera, also sizewise.......
 
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Sorry for calling some statements bull...t, but most of the views are only from the customer side.
Get an Mission E for 65.000$ and and all the features shown in the concept. Even there will be some guys (maybe also in this forum) who would buy one for 350.000$ there will be only a few of them.
Years ago Porsche and their owners had to make a decission about their future. Stay a small supercar brand or bring it to a higher level with more than a 911.
So all hardcore porsche fans (the aircooled ones ;-) had a real problem with SUV´s, Panameras and now electric cars (they had a problem with watercooled and turbo too), but the rest didn´t care and was happy about the opportunity to drive porsche also with the family ....
And now there is an invest of appr. 6.000.000.000€!!!! in electric cars. So it wouldn´t make sense to start with 1.000 superhyper electric cars for the first year.
Price and optics have to fit to get into the market specially if the leader in this segment has a lot more know how over the years (and also an existing infrastructure).
For me the step in to the electric market is well done with the Taycan and to be honest the mules maybe looks like panameras but belive me the final version looks great in it´s very special Taycan way. Frankfurt will show a small and very sporty 4 door car which looks really nice and a lot of the people getting back their deposit wouldn´t be happy with their decission.........
Only my idealistic view.
Yeah, but even you just admitted (whether you realize it or not) that Porsche is INTENTIONALLY watering down the design. Not because they have to, but because the want to so that they can improve the design (and if they do, the price will skyrocket).
I'm simply asking you to connect those dots, and when you do, you'll realize that what I said was spot on. They are intentionally watering it down so that the 2,3,5x more expensive cars aren't devalued because a $100k (USD) super/hyper car looking EV actually has better performance than a $250,000-2m hypercar (0-100mph etc).

We are actually agreeing, you just refuse to admit it ;) haha
 

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Have you seen the finished version yet?

There's a user called PAG_J1 who's seen the finished car and said it was very similar to the Mission E, and just want to get as much info as possible.
All due respect....there are many (including editorial 'experts') who have said the mule body is almost identical to the original E.

That's also pretty much what my wife would say also....but she does not know a Chevy from a Ford :) .
 

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All due respect....there are many (including editorial 'experts') who have said the mule body is almost identical to the original E..
I very much want to believe that.

I hope that's why Porsche have been promoting the Taycan using the Mission E so much
 


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I very much want to believe that.

I hope that's why Porsche have been promoting the Taycan using the Mission E so much
How awesome would it be if they shock us all and reveal basically the Mission E like they've been trotting out to this very day?
Maybe they really are basically testing the drivetrain and heartbeat of the Mission E / Taycan and just basically said:

Head Boss: "we're not gonna let anyone know what it looks like, so here, throw these body panels on it"
Supervisors: "But that looks like a hodge podge of panamera panels?"
Head Boss: "yeah, so what?"
Supervisors: "But it's nothing like the Taycan and you know it. How can we test it if it's nothing like it?"
Head Boss: "you dolt, we're testing the chassis, drivetrain, engine, charging. I don't give two shit's what the body looks like. It can look like a 1980's Buick Skylark for all I care. The panels and bodywork isn't what we're testing. We're testing the drivetrain and charging."
Supervisor: "But what about aerodynamics? Don't we need to test that?"
Head Boss: "You're about to be fired you simpleton! We've already tested the aerodynamics in the wind tunnels. Do you think Lockheed Martin tests their jets in the air with real pilots? Or in a wind tunnel for aerodynamics?"
Supervisor: "you got it boss. you'll freak people out, but you got it."
Head Boss: "Congrats, you kept your job for another day!"
 

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Anybody that thinks the final production Taycan should look exactly like the 'concept model' just doesn't understand automobiles. For a mass-produced car, the final production version will NEVER look exactly like the model for all sorts of very good reasons having to do with basic production. Anyone who is shocked or surprised at the final version had expectations that just weren't realistic.

I think Porsche has done a good job of staying as close as they could to the concept, and still hit the critical objectives - the main one being a reasonable price point. If this was a $250,000 car, it would be different. Anyone who thinks a sub-$100,000 car can look like the concept mission E is living in a dream world.
 
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I think Porsche has done a good job of staying as close as they could to the concept, and still hit the critical objectives - the main one being a reasonable price point. If this was a $250,000 car, it would be different. Anyone who thinks a sub-$100,000 car can look like the concept mission E is living in a dream world.
Exactly my point. Like, EXACTLY my point!!!
 


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Anybody that thinks the final production Taycan should look exactly like the 'concept model' just doesn't understand automobiles. For a mass-produced car, the final production version will NEVER look exactly like the model..... .
Well I don't know much about cars....however I do have a few......have had 1st production runs.....have had new cars redone by builders before shipping to states.....all been fun but I am still learning and admit I still don't completely 'understand automobiles'.

The 'E' could have been built.....probably would have been $150K a copy....what I had expected to pay anyway. A well optioned 'Turbo Taycan' will probably still run that....with the $400 floor mats and all :) .
I guess, now days, we can call a $150,000. car "mass produced" ...yes?, though I generally reserve those terms with a Chevy or a Ford. Just me.

So.....I'm gathering it doesn't bother you really that much....that Porsche wildly touted the original design.....that they produced that professional video in 2015 showing Muer, Korner, Borkert, and Burki all working to produce the beautiful E....the some total of all Porsche's efforts.......and then, over the next 4 years, bringing that car to almost every Porsche gathering and selling it as what's to come......taking an incredible number of deposits. I could go on. Nuff said.

I'm just old school.....but I know I could not do that in my businesses.....at least not and hold my head up.
The E could have been built........the decision was made not to. Sticking with an original design through development takes dogged determination....been done. It was not a factor highest on priorities at Zuffenhausen for this project.

The car will be very adequate for most....thrilling for some......and I'm sure, adequately successful for Porsche.....still a great company.
 

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not sure i fully agree on the main objective being price point. i think initially the suicide doors let them have a somewhat cramped back seat and not feel that this was a problem. However, when they turned the rear doors around they found themselves with a 4 door automobile and a fairly unusable back set of seats...... so. what to do.... either take the back seats out or make them comfortable for a real 4 door sedan. And that changed the whole dynamic of the car. So in that perspective they have done an extremely good job at keeping the mission-e lines, but yes the design now had to become more upright and wider in body. this obviously also entails narrower haunches since otherwise the rear would have broken the 2m width mark and that would just not be practicable on many roads and especially garages....... So in the end we have ended up with a compromise that is desperately trying to hang on to the original concept all whilst accommodating 4 real occupants. The thing i don’t really understand however, is why they changed the very slender front lines of the concept.... but maybe simply they did not look right with the now more bulbous rear end.......
 

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How awesome would it be if they shock us all and reveal basically the Mission E like they've been trotting out to this very day?
Maybe they really are basically testing the drivetrain and heartbeat of the Mission E / Taycan and just basically said:

Head Boss: "we're not gonna let anyone know what it looks like, so here, throw these body panels on it"
Supervisors: "But that looks like a hodge podge of panamera panels?"
Head Boss: "yeah, so what?"
Supervisors: "But it's nothing like the Taycan and you know it. How can we test it if it's nothing like it?"
Head Boss: "you dolt, we're testing the chassis, drivetrain, engine, charging. I don't give two shit's what the body looks like. It can look like a 1980's Buick Skylark for all I care. The panels and bodywork isn't what we're testing. We're testing the drivetrain and charging."
Supervisor: "But what about aerodynamics? Don't we need to test that?"
Head Boss: "You're about to be fired you simpleton! We've already tested the aerodynamics in the wind tunnels. Do you think Lockheed Martin tests their jets in the air with real pilots? Or in a wind tunnel for aerodynamics?"
Supervisor: "you got it boss. you'll freak people out, but you got it."
Head Boss: "Congrats, you kept your job for another day!"
Awesome
 

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Ok, I've been reading all the comments in this topic and the only thing we're doing is, finding ways to justify the final design of the Taycan but come on, this is something different than the Mission E where we all put down a deposit for!
Let's be real now.
Sure it will look ok, for some electrifying, for some a reason to withdraw the deposit.
For me it's important if I still want it when I see the final design in September.
I do like the Panamera, especially the latest ones with the more stylish back, love it but due to CO2-taxes a bit out of my league, well, let me put it differently, not beautiful enough to pay €200K+ so to speak (and without the performance in comparison to the Taycan of course).
Now, with some very nice Mission E styling on a Panamera, it is becoming interesting again...but it's still no Mission E. Period.
So, I'm really curious how the Taycan will look like in it's final design.... I mean REALLY curious!

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Ok, I've been reading all the comments in this topic and the only thing we're doing is, finding ways to justify the final design of the Taycan but come on, this is something different than the Mission E where we all put down a deposit for!
Let's be real now.
Sure it will look ok, for some electrifying, for some a reason to withdraw the deposit.
For me it's important if I still want it when I see the final design in September.
I do like the Panamera, especially the latest ones with the more stylish back, love it but due to CO2-taxes a bit out of my league, well, let me put it differently, not beautiful enough to pay €200K+ so to speak (and without the performance in comparison to the Taycan of course).
Now, with some very nice Mission E styling on a Panamera, it is becoming interesting again...but it's still no Mission E. Period.
So, I'm really curious how the Taycan will look like in it's final design.... I mean REALLY curious!

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Took this photo from another website.....
I believe some of the changes that "panamerized" the Taycan are simple points of practicality to make it a true 4 or 5 passenger car. The photo from the Soul Electrified ad shows the huge flared rear fenders which take almost as much space as the passenger area.
So to add interior space, the beautiful concept design was dramatically watered down for practicality purposes.

In the other photo, he roofline in the rear area was also raised, again giving it a more Panamera look, but again, it gives head room for the tall Norwegians, Dutch and Germans.....lol It looks like the all the curves, including the front windshield were dramatically toned down and made smaller, baffles me why, but perhaps to be more in line with the rear, give and again give more space in the front passenger area. And the front trunk lid appears to be lengthened without as sharp of a drop and like the windshield, less rounded.

The bottom line, its definitely a toned down Mission E design, and but probably wrong to call it a an electrified Panamera, but its looking good, just not out of this world beautiful and original like the Mission E was. After all, all Porsche's of any year have similarities, and thats WHY they are ALL recognizable instantaneously and are a great brand for appearance alone, not to mention amazing quality and performance.

I do hope it is smaller than the Panamera and not so wide. Years ago I almost bought the Panamera, but the vehicle was too wide for my high-rise condo parking spot!!!!!! literally had 1.5 inches on each side of the vehicle!

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