Taycan Q&A

Dee said:

I think when you compare the Taycan with the Mission E, you'll be very disappointed.
It'll never be the Mission E, no matter how hard you wish for that.
If you look at the Taycan as a car on itself and be realistic, you may get yourself excited...
Stop comparing, I'd say.

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This.

Whilst I do think there's more to the Taycan than you can see on the mules (I think there'll be some big differences between the mules and the Taycan - making the Taycan look more like the Mission E) the proportions I believe are locked in, and - as with any concept - the production version can't look as sporty as the concept for a whole variety of reasons.

However, even the mules -from the front- look acceptably similar to the Mission E, and the Taycan I think will look acceptably similar to the Mission E - you know this because when you look at it from a distance it looks not like a four-door saloon but like a sports coupe. Even the mules are not anything like as slab-sided as any other saloon, even the Rapide looks more slab-sided than the Taycan. Whilst we all want it to look more like the Mission E - and whilst I think the production Taycan will look much more like the Mission E than the mules, and will also have a Mission E spoiler/rear duct - it will never help to compare it all the time to the Mission E. Especially after reveal - it's good to keep hope before the reveal when everything is up in the air that it'll look very similar to the Mission E, but after reveal that isn't going to be very healthy.

With all the speculation on minuscule details on the Taycan exterior I wish Porsche would have put some decent fins on the rear of the mules to really get folks upset! Then again I am married to a German and fully realize they have no sense of humor......

MPawelek said:

With all the speculation on minuscule details on the Taycan exterior I wish Porsche would have put some decent fins on the rear of the mules to really get folks upset! Then again I am married to a German and fully realize they have no sense of humor......

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But I'd have liked fins on the back of it!

Well, actually second thoughts it might upset the aesthetic, but for sure the Taycan (and mission E for that matter) could use a small fixed bootlid spoiler to round off the rear end nicely

So in reading through the last few posts (RE: we still have hope that there could still be clad paneling), I looked back at some of the older pics. i recall that one of the forum members pointed out the silver/white door sill on one of the prototype's black open doors. If I'm not mistaken, it appears that with the door open in this shot, there could be a black panel over a silver or white door. It doesn't make sense to see a dual piece like this on door. Anyway, it gives me hope there is more cladding than we realize or I could be seeing things?

edouard356 said:

So in reading through the last few posts (RE: we still have hope that there could still be clad paneling), I looked back at some of the older pics. i recall that one of the forum members pointed out the silver/white door sill on one of the prototype's black open doors. If I'm not mistaken, it appears that with the door open in this shot, there could be a black panel over a silver or white door. It doesn't make sense to see a dual piece like this on door. Anyway, it gives me hope there is more cladding than we realize or I could be seeing things?

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You're not seeing things

There's a whole lot of cladding there. I initially thought it was just the rear with a lot of cladding/false panels etc. But now I'm starting to think there might be a whole false body on the mules

There's, what...100 mules? That's a lot of money put into fake bodywork.

About 90 of those mules started like this, you know that right? They removed camo from time to time (from the same car, they didnt replace with new another mule with less camo) ! Lots of money? You do know that from those 100 mules about 4 o 5 will be keep in the warehouse for "historic reasons" and the rest will be completly destroyed? They should ´ve made only 5 for testing if they concern was money!

Raek said:

There's, what...100 mules? That's a lot of money put into fake bodywork.

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Not trying to come off as crass, but there has always been a lot of bodywork /false panels (semantically speaking) on the mules that has slowly come off over past year.

Dee said:

I think when you compare the Taycan with the Mission E, you'll be very disappointed.
It'll never be the Mission E, no matter how hard you wish for that.
If you look at the Taycan as a car on itself and be realistic, you may get yourself excited...
Stop comparing, I'd say.

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Yeah but we all put our $$$ down on the Mission E with all the accompanying tech promises. So when those things change some of us are also re-thinking our original decision.

jack said:

<First post!!!>

I am just another enthusiast hoping for the Mission E style spoiler. Please take a look at the attached pics.

Assuming the "Soul, Electrified" video from Porsche shows the final Taycan (screencap in the 3rd image), then it seems like the tail silhouette closely matches the Mission E profile and not the current mules. Pay close attention to where the rear windshield meets the spoiler. I am quite convinced. Clear conclusion for all? Different camera angles? Wishful thinking?

It will be great if PAG_J1 can chime in!

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jack said:

<First post!!!>

I am just another enthusiast hoping for the Mission E style spoiler. Please take a look at the attached pics.

Assuming the "Soul, Electrified" video from Porsche shows the final Taycan (screencap in the 3rd image), then it seems like the tail silhouette closely matches the Mission E profile and not the current mules. Pay close attention to where the rear windshield meets the spoiler. I am quite convinced. Clear conclusion for all? Different camera angles? Wishful thinking?

It will be great if PAG_J1 can chime in!

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Good post
Great selection of photos
Puts the ‘cat amongst the pigeons’ (as it were)

I dont know about you guys! I was born in 81 (Yes, i´m that old I do Fucking miss the 80´s ) but this all concept/production car is remembering me of the 959 Concept/959 Production car!

When i think about the 959, i think about the production car not the concept (altough the concept was awesome)

Raek said:

There's, what...100 mules? That's a lot of money put into fake bodywork.

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Yeah, but Porsche are probably thinking that it's money well spent, if it'll blow people's expectations and create a great positive reception for the car.

Also-design secrecy. This isn't just new design territory for Porsche, but for cars themselves. How many carmakers are making a sports-car profile saloon right now - i.e. which doesn't look slab sided? The closest I can think of is the Fisker EMotion and Karma Revero (The Revero looks less like a sports car than the Taycan mules do) and those are very low volume cars. There's a big case for design secrecy here

Paulo said:

I dont know about you guys! I was born in 81 (Yes, i´m that old I do Fucking miss the 80´s ) but this all concept/production car is remembering me of the 959 Concept/959 Production car!

When i think about the 959, i think about the production car not the concept (altough the concept was awesome)

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That's almost indistinguishable from the concept

Just like the 918 was from its concept

See a pattern here?

We should ask Priddy, this girls knows the final shape! Too bad she´s not so good at photoshop!

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/20/cam...way-car-makers-test-drive-new-prototypes.html

Paulo said:

About 90 of those mules started like this, you know that right? They removed camo from time to time (from the same car, they didnt replace with new another mule with less camo) ! Lots of money? You do know that from those 100 mules about 4 o 5 will be keep in the warehouse for "historic reasons" and the rest will be completly destroyed? They should ´ve made only 5 for testing if they concern was money!

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Chill, guy. I'm very happy with the Taycan as it sits, and think that as the camo has come off, it's slowly revealed a lot more of the finer, aggressive details.

I've been one of the people here that's been long pushing the fact that the similarities are there.

However, I'm realistic enough to think that the R&D team would like real world results for the FINISHED product over the million or so miles that they've all even driven. A slight change in the shape of the body can fuck with the aerodynamics, and for a BEV and more importantly a SPORTS BEV...aerodynamics are the name of the game ie; battery consumption.