Differences between Turbo and Turbo S?

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Porsche says the more power on Turbo S is only (!) available at boost mode ... and boost mode is only available during Launch control .... would result in same power on both models "outside" Launch control.

But 80-120 times are 0.2 sec different ... but why doesn't make Porsche advertisement with this increased power "outside" Launch control tp push Turbo S sales?

Turbo S doesn't make sense when only at boost mode the power is increased ... nobody is using the Taycan as a drag racer
Same power, but the Turbo S has more torque available from the front engine.
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Porsche says the more power on Turbo S is only (!) available at boost mode ... and boost mode is only available during Launch control .... would result in same power on both models "outside" Launch control.

But 80-120 times are 0.2 sec different ... but why doesn't make Porsche advertisement with this increased power "outside" Launch control tp push Turbo S sales?

Turbo S doesn't make sense when only at boost mode the power is increased ... nobody is using the Taycan as a drag racer
It seems to me the Turbo S is more of a "bragging rights issue" or marketing ploy to counter the Tesla Model S 0-60 speed rather than a really useful function. Especially since the boost is only available in launch mode. :rolleyes: It doesn't bother me that the Tesla S is a few hundreds of a second faster so the Turbo trim loaded with S options seems to be a clear choice for the $$$ not that the Turbo is a real bargain by any measurement.
 

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It seems to me the Turbo S is more of a "bragging rights issue" or marketing ploy to counter the Tesla Model S 0-60 speed rather than a really useful function. Especially since the boost is only available in launch mode. :rolleyes: It doesn't bother me that the Tesla S is a few hundreds of a second faster so the Turbo trim loaded with S options seems to be a clear choice for the $$$ not that the Turbo is a real bargain by any measurement.
Turbo S is definitely not your 'bargain' car. The front engine delivers a bit more torque under max acceleration at speed, but the .2 sec difference in 80-120 will be pretty much undistinguishable in the real world. Same for the 0-60 acceleration. My thinking was simply, if I'm going to pay $200K plus for a car, I'll go for it, and it is beyond 'bargain' or value, it's really beyond any kind of logic. I'm ok with that...
 

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Turbo S is definitely not your 'bargain' car. The front engine delivers a bit more torque under max acceleration at speed, but the .2 sec difference in 80-120 will be pretty much undistinguishable in the real world. Same for the 0-60 acceleration. My thinking was simply, if I'm going to pay $200K plus for a car, I'll go for it, and it is beyond 'bargain' or value, it's really beyond any kind of logic. I'm ok with that...
Your probably write, but the car (Turbo S) I spec'd for myself ran close to $220k before tax/license. When I ended up actually kicking the tires and seeing the Taycan Turbo S, I decided there were just a whole lot of ICE cars for that kind of money I liked w/o all the hassle of an electric. So, it may be sometime before I go for an all electric – more range, less charging hassle (more charging stations), more room etc.
 

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Porsche says the more power on Turbo S is only (!) available at boost mode ... and boost mode is only available during Launch control .... would result in same power on both models "outside" Launch control.

But 80-120 times are 0.2 sec different ... but why doesn't make Porsche advertisement with this increased power "outside" Launch control tp push Turbo S sales?

Turbo S doesn't make sense when only at boost mode the power is increased ... nobody is using the Taycan as a drag racer
Maybe it’s just the tires? The 21 inch might be much stickier than the 20 inch.
 


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Your probably write, but the car (Turbo S) I spec'd for myself ran close to $220k before tax/license. When I ended up actually kicking the tires and seeing the Taycan Turbo S, I decided there were just a whole lot of ICE cars for that kind of money I liked w/o all the hassle of an electric. So, it may be sometime before I go for an all electric – more range, less charging hassle (more charging stations), more room etc.
You are correct, it’s all about what you want. My R8 is more fun in some ways, McClaren is more “raw” But neither has the punch nor the instantaneous and silent response. I wouldn’t buy a Turbo or Turbo S for “range,” it’s like a person I knew who bragged they could get 32 mpg from their BMW M car....
 

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You are correct, it’s all about what you want. My R8 is more fun in some ways, McClaren is more “raw” But neither has the punch nor the instantaneous and silent response. I wouldn’t buy a Turbo or Turbo S for “range,” it’s like a person I knew who bragged they could get 32 mpg from their BMW M car....
I had been planning to buy the Taycan Turbo S as a replacement for my Pano Turbo S which is my DD. But the more I got into particulars, it seemed that it would just be more hassle on a daily basis than I wanted to deal with. I like the Pano as a DD pretty drama free, fast, fair mileage (19 city 24 Hwy cruising at 80s), comfortable and plenty of room for people and stuff. So, it didn’t appear that I was improving my entire enjoyment package while spending a lot of $$$. Which lead me to drop out of the Program after being a big fan and early depositor.
 

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@randkin - how is the Taycan more hassle on a daily basis than a Pany?
 


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@randkin - how is the Taycan more hassle on a daily basis than a Pany?
Dealing with range, finding charging stations locally and on longer trips, less room for passengers, less room for stuff, all instruments are screen oriented (going through different screens to find the item you want vs pressing button). These come to mind immediately but I had thought of others.
 

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IMHO

  1. EV range is a not a "daily" issues - it's a road trip issue, and isn't that bad after you first road trip and some planning - but yeah not as easy as gas car
    1. done properly you have charging at home and never worry about public charging except on rare occasions you drive more than a single charge in a day…
    2. the benefit of daily charging at home far out weighs the rare times you do have to deal with public charging networks
    3. public charging is getting better over time not worse, so this gets better week by week
  2. yes the Taycan interior is smaller than the Pany
  3. yes - room for stuff goes along with less passenger room
  4. screens it's a matter of what you're used to - so this is subjective - I prefer the Taycan to the wall of buttons in the Pany
 

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IMHO

  1. EV range is a not a "daily" issues - it's a road trip issue, and isn't that bad after you first road trip and some planning - but yeah not as easy as gas car
    1. done properly you have charging at home and never worry about public charging except on rare occasions you drive more than a single charge in a day…
    2. the benefit of daily charging at home far out weighs the rare times you do have to deal with public charging networks
    3. public charging is getting better over time not worse, so this gets better week by week
  2. yes the Taycan interior is smaller than the Pany
  3. yes - room for stuff goes along with less passenger room
  4. screens it's a matter of what you're used to - so this is subjective - I prefer the Taycan to the wall of buttons in the Pany
And those are the reasons you are getting a Taycan and I am not. Different things important to some but not others. For me just too many ICE cars for the price I want more and with less perceived hassle. IMO That is why the electrics are not putting the ICE cars out of business in the near future.. Long term who knows, electrics will certainly have their place. As they get better and better they will take more of the ICE market but that may be a few years perhaps when self driving is perfected?
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