Taycan battery may repeat Bolt battery disaster

[Gino]

You have been told that your 2021 Taycan is not subject to any recalls, including ARB6 or ARB7? Wow!

Until the software to analyze the main battery is released the ARB 6 & 7 have no actions for my dealer to perform. Once they can do the analysis then who knows what actions will be required but my SOC is well within spec at this point and I don’t drive it enough to stress the battery so I doubt Porsche will need to do anything on my battery.
I’ve stopped worrying about my Taycan. It’s one of 4 vehicles I drive the least so not much changes from year to year. The ARB6 & 7 recalls really are most likely to impact owners who drive their vehicles on a daily basis. I’m lucky if I put 3K to 4K miles/year on average since I’m never around. It sits in a nice garage and never gets too hot or cold but works every time I get home from traveling serving me well.
Now that I’ve been reassured by Porsche that they’re confident my Taycan won’t catch fire in my garage & I can charge at 120V as long as I want with no risk of fire or battery degradation I can stop worrying.

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[Gino]

Until the software to analyze the main battery is released the ARB 6 & 7 have no actions for my dealer to perform. Once they can do the analysis then who knows what actions will be required but my SOC is well within spec at this point and I don’t drive it enough to stress the battery so I doubt Porsche will need to do anything on my battery.
I’ve stopped worrying about my Taycan. It’s one of 4 vehicles I drive the least so not much changes from year to year. The ARB6 & 7 recalls really are most likely to impact owners who drive their vehicles on a daily basis. I’m lucky if I put 3K to 4K miles/year on average since I’m never around. It sits in a nice garage and never gets too hot or cold but works every time I get home from traveling serving me well.
Now that I’ve been reassured by Porsche that they’re confident my Taycan won’t catch fire in my garage & I can charge at 120V as long as I want with no risk of fire or battery degradation I can stop worrying.

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[Dee]

"C (which is 2020) had a lot of problems. Very unstable."

That's Cristian Tabuyo from Thailand.
I'm familiar with his work yes.
I'd better not say what professionals think of him.
He only sees bad batteries cuz......(surprise!)....... he's a repair shop!
That's the only reason people go to him cuz there's no support from Porsche in Thailand or something like that.

He once said 2022 batteries are bad too (electrical isolation problem).
Maybe he gets more Taycans from different years now...
He's done a few, don't know exactly how many.
Anyway, you can't do anything about it so you'd better stop worrying and enjoy your Taycan! ?

PS These are mine:

 

[feye]

That's Cristian Tabuyo from Thailand.
I'm familiar with his work yes.
I'd better not say what professionals think of him.
He only sees bad batteries cuz......(surprise!)....... he's a repair shop!
That's the only reason people go to him cuz there's no support from Porsche in Thailand or something like that.

He once said 2022 batteries are bad too (electrical isolation problem).
Maybe he gets more Taycans from different years now...
He's done a few, don't know exactly how many.
Anyway, you can't do anything about it so you'd better stop worrying and enjoy your Taycan! ?

PS These are mine:

Thank you for the info! I am not worried, since I have accepted to buy the extra warranty.

 

[Dee]

Thank you for the info! I am not worried, since I have accepted to buy the extra warranty.

You mean extra battery warranty?
Regular Extended Porsche warranty doesn't cover battery issues.

 

[Gino]

You mean extra battery warranty?
Regular Extended Porsche warranty doesn't cover battery issues.

The extended warranty doesn’t cover the HV or the 13.5V batteries. The HV battery is covered by the 8 year 100K mile warranty dictated by law and the 13.5V battery I assume is a consumable but maybe the extended warranty could cover it if the standard 4 year bumper to bumper covers it.

 

[Dee]

The extended warranty doesn’t cover the HV or the 13.5V batteries. The HV battery is covered by the 8 year 100K mile warranty dictated by law and the 13.5V battery I assume is a consumable but maybe the extended warranty could cover it if the standard 4 year bumper to bumper covers it.

We're not talking about the 12V battery here.
And I'm not sure why you are telling me all this...

 

[Gino]

The extended warranty doesn’t cover the HV or the 13.5V batteries. The HV battery is covered by the 8 year 100K mile warranty dictated by law and the 13.5V battery I assume is a consumable but maybe the extended warranty could cover it if the standard 4 year bumper to bumper covers it.

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[feye]

You mean extra battery warranty?
Regular Extended Porsche warranty doesn't cover battery issues.

That's a good point we need to clarify with the dealer, thank you!

Basically after 8 years it's a must sell unless we find a shop outside Porsche, which can fix things for regular prices, including new batteries...

 

[SergeyIndy]

That's a good point we need to clarify with the dealer, thank you!

Basically after 8 years it's a must sell unless we find a shop outside Porsche, which can fix things for regular prices, including new batteries...

I keep cars long time and plan to do so with the Taycan.
My understanding is that HV battery warranty cannot be extended.
Based on data for EV batteries in general, they will outlive the car.
My plan is to get extended warranty to align with the end of HV battery warranty.
By then, there may be options to cost effectively replace modules or batteries (with better ones) and even now we know that J1.2 HV battery will be the ongoing replacement for J1.1 car HV batteries with a software update emulating J1.1 battery capacity and other characteristics.

 

[Caraholic]

I keep cars long time and plan to do so with the Taycan.
My understanding is that HV battery warranty cannot be extended.
Based on data for EV batteries in general, they will outlive the car.
My plan is to get extended warranty to align with the end of HV battery warranty.
By then, there may be options to cost effectively replace modules or batteries (with better ones) and even now we know that J1.2 HV battery will be the ongoing replacement for J1.1 car HV batteries with a software update emulating J1.1 battery capacity and other characteristics.

agree whole heartedly about typical batteries outliving the car. Unfortunately with Porsches LG batteries they have a known pouch design flaw which will fail we just don’t know when. Expecting Porsche to stand behind their product and replace all of the old lg cells but that may be optimistic thinking.

 

[feye]

I keep cars long time and plan to do so with the Taycan.
My understanding is that HV battery warranty cannot be extended.
Based on data for EV batteries in general, they will outlive the car.
My plan is to get extended warranty to align with the end of HV battery warranty.
By then, there may be options to cost effectively replace modules or batteries (with better ones) and even now we know that J1.2 HV battery will be the ongoing replacement for J1.1 car HV batteries with a software update emulating J1.1 battery capacity and other characteristics.

How long is "long time"?

The problem is the price of a new pack from Porsche. If the car is worth less than a new pack, isn't it considered junk? If the same second hand car on the market, which still drives and costs less than a new pack from Prosche, why repair your broken one?

 

[Dr Monty]

Gentlemen, frankly, all these concerns and insistence on the supposed fire issues are getting tiring. The Taycan has experienced an extremely small number of fire incidents compared to other electric cars, and these cases are absolutely negligible relative to the total number of units sold.


Unlike other manufacturers, Porsche has likely issued widespread recalls out of caution and professionalism, and it is actively implementing software-based monitoring systems.

Beyond that, one could just argue about the range, especially for the first version, but in my opinion, the Taycan remains an absolutely fantastic car, unmatched in many aspects.


This unfounded fear does not do justice to the product. There are certainly many owners who, like myself, are in love with this vehicle. Period.

I love my 4S CT for the driving experience ( not the range), but per the recall notice in December, my MY 21 4S CT can’t be charged beyond 80%, and I recently learned it is subject to yet another recall issue.

Porsche Japan says they can’t do any testing/ work on these until roughly end March. After that I get in line for testing which will take a week minimum; if faults are found, then it’s an unknown. Weeks more were implied.

I think this is the sixth or possibly seventh recall.
Resale value- the dealer doesn’t seem to want it back ( I’ve been asking for a valuation for weeks ) even though I’m just looking for a used 718 swap ( which are often ~30% higher than new prices).

For what it’s worth, my experience with my MY ‘23 BMW iX50 has been completely different in terms of quality matters. It is not the same driving experience, obviously, it’s a different sort of vehicle, but the quality and range are on a different level.

My Taycan experience is sad mix of driving positives sullied by crippling faults and is an unmitigated resale value disaster, especially compared with ICE Porsches.

 

[SergeyIndy]

How long is "long time"?

The problem is the price of a new pack from Porsche. If the car is worth less than a new pack, isn't it considered junk? If the same second hand car on the market, which still drives and costs less than a new pack from Prosche, why repair your broken one?

Good questions.
Long time is 8 years minimum.
I would still pay for new pack if costs more than the car itself, since it is my car from new, specd exactly my way.

 

[chun]

Good questions.
Long time is 8 years minimum.
I would still pay for new pack if costs more than the car itself, since it is my car from new, specd exactly my way.

There will always also be the option of a 2nd hand battery. I've seen j1.1 batteries go for as little as 5000, working ones... now, that's obviously an extreme which would imply something wrong with the battery, but yea.
You'd just have to fine a service to install it.

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