PCA - EV Mythbusting

[Techwizard100]

It's also a lot of grossly misrepresented info in there, so I would take everything with a big ass grain of salt.

Replacing cells in the taycan is just as hard as in a tesla, it's just that they are choosing not to do it in services, and instead replace whole modules.

> See my other video on exactly how cell replacement is done at the Porsche dealer. I’m sure you can find it. Not even close. Do a little more research.

He also interprets that having 23 modules replaced out of 33 by the end of the 8 year warranty is great, because it's almost a new battery. Well, in fact it's horrible, because all it does is show that it's unreliable AF, and you're still left with 10 modules that will break outside the warranty - mandated by EU, not from porsche's big heart.

>Worst case scenario example not a real experience. Come on now.

The point about the charging planner also completely ignores that it's vastly different between my20-24; my25 and my26 cars, with a lot more filters and performance, because shockingly... only newest cars get the newest software Not to mention that in europe it's been broken for 8 months.

> The charging planner was presented based on the 20 to 24 software. It works just fine.

A good point in there about the 800V architecture, that would in theory allow for better batteries to be put in the car to improve performance slightly... but it would require an unlocked BMS,

which porsche won't provide

>crystal ball?

The info in there is good for marketing purposes only really, or for folks that are just getting into their first EV and need some encouragement.

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[Techwizard100]

Also kind of ignores that, as per his words, a fix takes a few weeks... and he listed 8 fixes in 8 years; that's basically 6-8 months without the car

Now you know that was an example of what possibly could be a worst case scenario.

Spinning something so obviously horrible in a positive way is definitely a nice skill to have, definitely some marketing experience in his life

Everyone’s experience varies, but I have seen that cells can be replaced in a day and entire batteries can be replaced in 48 hours. Not all shops have the skills, but to say that it can’t be done is incorrect.

 

[Techwizard100]

I lmao so hard when I saw this. Like, is he for real? Telling people having battery issues every 2 years is great because you end up with an almost new battery by the 8th year?

Taken out of context. This was a total what if scenario.

 

[DerekS]

That was a for-instance, worst case scenario. Not expected experience. Come on now.

I may have missed that it was presented as a worst-case.

I recently went through a 2 month service ordeal with a HV issue that ultimately led me to sell the car and get a new one. I am, perhaps, a bit touchy about that experience.

 

[DerekS]

@Techwizard100 I will add, I’m extremely bullish on both Porsche and EVs. I’m on my third Taycan, and I’m eager for more sporty Porsche EVs to come out.

I do appreciate what you’re doing by countering some of the disinformation spread by the haters.

One of the points you made that caught a lot of forum interest was about the big update coming for all Taycans. Can you elaborate on that?

 

[Techwizard100]

Well, what he is talking about boils down to two philosophies...

Taycan battery is CTM (Cell to Module) type. Because Taycan uses pouch cell there is no other way really. 6 pairs of cells totalling 12 cells make up 1 module. Either 33 or 29 modules make up one battery (33x12= 396 cells or 29x12 = 348 cells). When one single cell dies you cannot replace it and you can only replace the whole module which contains it.

Tesla battery is CTB (Cell to Body) type. Because they use prismatic batteries there are no module, each cell mounted directly onto the battery's body with a thermal interface in between. When one single cell dies you can replace it standalone.


So depending on which way you look at it, for me, Taycan is way easier to service because you just replace the failed module with very little risks and be done with it. Whereas in #Tesla although you can replace individual cells you have to cut your way to them........“
But his way of looking at it is that in Taycan you can't even change a single failed cell so that's bad for him.

100%

I may have missed that it was presented as a worst-case.

I recently went through a 2 month service ordeal with a HV issue that ultimately led me to sell the car and get a new one. I am, perhaps, a bit touchy about that experience.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I imagine you saw my prior video where we tore down a battery and did a live replacement and it literally just took hours from start to finish so with the right tech and the right parts this can be done in 48 hours or less.

 

[DerekS]

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I imagine you saw my prior video where we tore down a battery and did a live replacement and it literally just took hours from start to finish so with the right tech and the right parts this can be done in 48 hours or less.

I did indeed watch that video with interest, and when I was having HV issues it made me wish I’d shipped my car to Florida for that tech to work on it! My wife even suggested that I call him and have him talk to my shop.

The biggest problem Porsche has right now is lack of qualified experienced HV techs to make these problems less of an event.

 

[Techwizard100]

@Techwizard100 I will add, I’m extremely bullish on both Porsche and EVs. I’m on my third Taycan, and I’m eager for more sporty Porsche EVs to come out.

I do appreciate what you’re doing by countering some of the disinformation spread by the haters.

One of the points you made that caught a lot of forum interest was about the big update coming for all Taycans. Can you elaborate on that?

When this video was shot, it was mid summer 2025. The update referenced was an OTA or Dealer update that has already been rolled out. I got it OTA and it worked great. This is the BMS software update.

Going forward, the good news is that Porsche is very aware of our request to keep every Taycan as updated as possible. There’s so many easy, simple things that can be done to make life continually better for the J1.1 owners.

As EV representative for PCA, I get to share our wishes with Porsche. Comments here help me provide the ammunition to keep pushing. For clarity, let’s just say that I hope there is an update for cars and maybe that’ll calm the group. The haters seem to have lots of time to critique and complain from the couch.

 

[chun]

You’re right just a car club. 170,000 porsche owners.

Investors don’t get those details, but sure, car clubs do.
Switzerland has some of the biggest super car clubs, plenty of 918 and GTs, and shockingly beside random service person rumors, there is no official info being given

Proof enough is that you clarified that it’s your wish

As for the rest of the inaccuracies in the video, your audience may be fine with them. I am not. If you want the best for those 170.000 owners, maybe present the facts as they are, and not how a porsche marketing person might. Porsche needs a wake up call, not ass kissing.

P.S; the charging planner has not been working on the continent of Europe of 8 months and it’s not because i am a hater, it’s because its broken mate, and because porsche doesn’t give a fuck

 

[DerekS]

When this video was shot, it was mid summer 2025. The update referenced was the J1.1 update that has already been rolled out. I got it OTA and it worked great. This is the BMS software update.

Ah! That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

We were all getting excited that something else might be coming.

 

[Techwizard100]

Ah! That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

We were all getting excited that something else might be coming.

The BMS software update is very intelligent. Have your noticed that sometimes in the morning your car is in private mode.

 

[DerekS]

The BMS software update is very intelligent. Have your noticed that sometimes in the morning your car is in private mode.

I have not. My hope is that the Gen2 battery is intelligently designed and won’t have the issues the Gen1 had!

 

[Techwizard100]

@Techwizard100 I will add, I’m extremely bullish on both Porsche and EVs. I’m on my third Taycan, and I’m eager for more sporty Porsche EVs to come out.

I do appreciate what you’re doing by countering some of the disinformation spread by the haters.

One of the points you made that caught a lot of forum interest was about the big update coming for all Taycans. Can you elaborate on that?

BTW, Im stepping back from engaging obvious haters that simply complain from the couch about others efforts. Thanks again for your points of view.

 

[DerekS]

BTW, Im stepping back from engaging obvious haters that simply complain from the couch about others efforts. Thanks again for your points of view.

Folks, I think this thread took a wrong turn.

We have a forum member, with influence at Porsche, who is doing what he can to:

- Dispel EV misinformation
- Educate EV haters and enthusiasts alike about the technical details on the HV system repairs
- Raise visibility to Porsche about the pain points we experience
- Share information from Porsche when he can
- Make entertaining content, for free, on his own time.

Constructive feedback is one thing, but I'd like to circle back to the positives here and avoid discouraging a fellow member.

Let's get back to arguing about the safety of lowering a Taycan

 

[Techwizard100]

Folks, I think this thread took a wrong turn.

We have a forum member, with influence at Porsche, who is doing what he can to:

- Dispel EV misinformation
- Educate EV haters and enthusiasts alike about the technical details on the HV system repairs
- Raise visibility to Porsche about the pain points we experience
- Share information from Porsche when he can
- Make entertaining content, for free, on his own time.

Constructive feedback is one thing, but I'd like to circle back to the positives here and avoid discouraging a fellow member.

Let's get back to arguing about the safety of lowering a Taycan

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