Winter Tire choice?

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For my winter requirements I find the Pirelli PZero Winter NF0 perfect. High enough speed rating to make winter autobahn enjoyable and safe. Have driven as far north as Tromsø in Norway and lapland in Finland with no issues. And they even make sense in the much milder Irish winters where temps are lower than 7c – but more with freezing rain/ice than snow.

For sure they are not as specialised as the Hakkapelitta R3 – but I for one am delighted such a "high performance" winter all rounder as the Pirelli is available (and certified).
I have these on my trip up to Trysil in Norway, and they have performed very well. They started out in South of France at 20C which hurt a bit. But they performed there as well as on the autobahn. In Sweden and Norway in snow storm and down to minus 22 C they were great. We Saw a few cars struggling to get up some hilly road, but no problems with the Taycan. I guess the heavy weight and the Pirelli winters on 4 wheel drive, were a great combination.

On very compacted snow and icy conditions I envied a Mercedes EQS with Hakkapelitta R10 studded tyres. We drove some icy roads together. He had such a grip level, while my traction control flashed a lot. They are however only allowed in the Nordic countries so a bit expensive for such limited use.
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Why wouldn't we? Plenty of photographic (and even video) evidence around here..
Snowdrift, to me, is what you would take in a Jeep but not a wagon :) And I have beached myself before in a Jeep... so I have experience doing dumb things. It feels extra risky (aka expensive) to go into snow drift with a car that has servos in the vents of the nose of the car.
Needless to say, when typical New England Nor'Easter hits us this winter, Taycan is not going to hang out in the garage while XC90 does its thing.
 

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Snowdrift, to me, is what you would take in a Jeep but not a wagon :) And I have beached myself before in a Jeep... so I have experience doing dumb things. It feels extra risky (aka expensive) to go into snow drift with a car that has servos in the vents of the nose of the car.
Needless to say, when typical New England Nor'Easter hits us this winter, Taycan is not going to hang out in the garage while XC90 does its thing.
My one concern about the CT was whether its ground clearance was going to be enough for the potholes at our local ski resorts. Happy to report my concern was promptly alleviated.
 

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My one concern about the CT was whether its ground clearance was going to be enough for the potholes at our local ski resorts. Happy to report my concern was promptly alleviated.
I am impressed by the range of the suspension of the CT. We have some speedbumps around here, which appeared due to some kids street racing and locals losing patience. Most 911s without a nose lift can't get over the bump (my 'ol Cayman sure couldn't). No problem for the CT. GPS marked lift - freaking genius of Porsche! I now pre-programmed all those spots with nasty bumps so my wife does not have to think about it and can just enjoy driving the car.
 

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I have narrowed the choice down to either.

Nokian Hakkapelitta R3

or Pirelli Scorpion Ice&Snow

Michelin X-ice snow is out of stock everywhere here. But the other two are available.

size will be
245/45R20 front
285/40r20 rear

in other words Porsche specified sizes.

The Hakkapelitta R3 is a proven winter tire that I have experience using on previous cars. However its very soft and has speedrating R (170km/h) also no porsche certification.

The Pirelli Scorpion Ice&Snow has porsche NFO certification and speed rating V (210km/h)

Does anyone have experience with either tire on the taycan?

I’m not considering michelin alpin and the other pirelli tires as they are not made for harsh winter with snow and ice.
Have you considered the Continental Nordic Winter tyres? I do not think they are Porsche Approved and their speed rating is much lower than my Pirelli’s. They are test winners for a few years in Sweden I believe. Nokian Hakka is also a favourite of mine but Conti seem very good.

I recently made a test drive with a Turbo in Stockholm on some slippery compacted snow raods, with Conti tyres Nordic spec. The grip level was really impressive. After the test drive I drove the same route in my Turbo on European Winters. It had snowed a bit more but the difference was remarkable. The Pirelli performed quite well but a completely different performance to the Nordic tyres.

Now if I only could test out a Turbo with Studded Nokias Hakka R10 on the same stretch!!
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