Luggage partition net for CT with sunroof

[ovonrein]

Just a quick question to the community from a CT newbie. The manual for the car shows a (optional) vertical partition net that can be installed at two positions in the luggage area. I can see the bottom lashing points, as shown in the manual. I cannot see the roof anchor points. My CT has a panoramic sunroof. Is my suspicion correct that you lose the roof anchors when you spec a panoramic sunroof? Thanks.

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[cityhpper]

Pretty sure you need to specify the luggage compartment net when ordering the car. I had a CT with panoramic roof and the roof anchors - but only as I added it when buying the car new.

 

[ovonrein]

Oh wow. That thought had not occurred to me. Visited my local dealer today and they were stumped - they could not even find/had never seen this net. Thanks. Next stop, Porsche's configurator. I wonder whether it will list the net as an option...

 

[ovonrein]

Yeah - found the net in the Configurator in Technology/Comfort&everyday usability. Dirt cheap option from new - makes me wonder whether it is possible to retrofit.

 

[tophamn]

Yeah - found the net in the Configurator in Technology/Comfort&everyday usability. Dirt cheap option from new - makes me wonder whether it is possible to retrofit.

I don't know if this feature is affected by having the glass roof - I thought all CTs had it. I've got an ST without the glass roof and don't have the anchor points. I can't believe it would be an easy retro-fit.

TBH I had the net with my previous Panamera ST and it's a bit rubbish! - never used it.

Out of interest: why are you looking for a partition? - dogs?

 

[Speuk]

I had the net with my previous 4S CT with glass roof. Complete rubbish. Only used it once and I didn't bother with it on the new 4S ST. Unless you need the separation with the rear seats folded down the I would not bother. With the rear seats up the gap with the head rests extended is very small. I usually put two 63cm suitcases upright behind the rear seats when travelling fully loaded and that completely blocks off the luggage area. If you have the luggage mat you need to cut holes in it to access the floor fixing points too.

 

[JAGMAN]

I have a CT with the roof anchors at both the rear seats and behind the front seats. It also has a pano roof. U.S. car, was not optioned.

I use the net daily to keep my dogs in the back. I agree with the others that it is not perfect. The top bar of the net cuts off the driver’s vision out the rear window, which is the largest drawback. Beyond that, it is not built in like it is in my Cayenne.

 

[ovonrein]

Thanks for all your replies. Our family wagon ordinarily serves as a luxury sedan but on the odd occasion (with the rear seats down and a roof box on) also as a dumper truck or removal van (when one child or the other moves uni etc). My impression is that the Taycan net is more tedious to install than the net of my previous 5 Touring but since I only need it very occasionally, I put up with a bit of inconvenience to prevent loose stuff flying thru the cabin in the event of an accident. Does the net stow away in the shallow compartment under the floor?

PS: I sent email to Porsche to ask whether it can be retrofitted now that you confirmed to me that it is available even on cars with a glass roof. It is an odd decision by Porsche to configure the floor lashing points as standard but not the corresponding roof anchor points...

 

[tophamn]

Thanks for all your replies. Our family wagon ordinarily serves as a luxury sedan but on the odd occasion (with the rear seats down and a roof box on) also as a dumper truck or removal van (when one child or the other moves uni etc). My impression is that the Taycan net is more tedious to install than the net of my previous 5 Touring but since I only need it very occasionally, I put up with a bit of inconvenience to prevent loose stuff flying thru the cabin in the event of an accident. Does the net stow away in the shallow compartment under the floor?

PS: I sent email to Porsche to ask whether it can be retrofitted now that you confirmed to me that it is available even on cars with a glass roof. It is an odd decision by Porsche to configure the floor lashing points as standard but not the corresponding roof anchor points...

I can't be sure but I suspect the net will store under the boot floor - it folds pretty small (at least the Panamera one did!). Someone who has one should confirm.

As for asking Porsche if it's possible to retro-fit I'd give an almost 100% certainty they'll say "no". However, I'd be surprised if the anchors in the roof aren't present on all Turismos but you'd need to cut the head-lining to access them, or replace it with a different part (with shaped recesses/holes?). I'd be interested if you pursue this - keep us informed .

 

[Poshfpg]

The net is rubbish as dog protection anyway, used it once and then put in in a cupbaord. I can see how it might be helpful with seats down to keep you safe but I reckon you could buy a pop up mesh thing that would do similar.

Audi used to have a super smart double use retractable parcel shelf in their estates that had the through load net that could attach to the roof at row 2 or row 1 while the parcel shelf stayed attached to the back of the seats. Seemed like such a simple solution.

 

[cityhpper]

I would absolutly order the partition net if I were to spec a new CT or ST. I used the net on many occations when hauling either lots of luggage (family trip, vacation etc.) or moving larger items. With some training it takes two minutes to install it. And it does fit beneath the floor.

A friend of mine used a station wagon to haul some stuff for a relative. Due to a reckless driver, he needed to run off the road to avoid a head-on collission. Car toppled over and an item broke loose from the luggage area and hit him. His neck was permanently injured and he had to leave the job as a operational police officer. A partition net might have protected him and reduced the consequence of the accident.

 

[Poshfpg]

I would absolutly order the partition net if I were to spec a new CT or ST. I used the net on many occations when hauling either lots of luggage (family trip, vacation etc.) or moving larger items. With some training it takes two minutes to install it. And it does fit beneath the floor.

A friend of mine used a station wagon to haul some stuff for a relative. Due to a reckless driver, he needed to run off the road to avoid a head-on collission. Car toppled over and an item broke loose from the luggage area and hit him. His neck was permanently injured and he had to leave the job as a operational police officer. A partition net might have protected him and reduced the consequence of the accident.

I agree with this but the OP doesn’t have the mounting points in his car. I do and have a grille to block the dog. So yes absolutely a must spec item but trying to get it retrofitted is a different matter when there may be easier solutions

 

[ovonrein]

Thanks again for all your replies

I would absolutly order the partition net if I were to spec a new CT or ST. ... it does fit beneath the floor.

Thanks for the heads-up. If I ordered it from new, at that laughable price (relative to the car) I'd order the net too. Mind, we can turn this on its head - what is Porsche thinking NOT fitting those anchors as standard? (They could still sell the net separately if they wanted to make a few extra bob.) It is absurd because the bottom lashing points are standard anyway.

The issue seems to be that few buyers become aware of this option when, as evidenced by my local Porsche sales team, even dealers are blissfully unaware.

A friend of mine used a station wagon to haul some stuff for a relative. Due to a reckless driver, he needed to run off the road to avoid a head-on collission. Car toppled over and an item broke loose from the luggage area and hit him.

We have a similar anecdote except that our friends did not get that lucky. Loose cargo in the hold isn't a laughing matter.

Audi used to have a super smart double use retractable parcel shelf in their estates that had the through load net that could attach to the roof at row 2 or row 1 while the parcel shelf stayed attached to the back of the seats. Seemed like such a simple solution.

Yes, this is the same kind of system used by BMW.

As for asking Porsche if it's possible to retro-fit I'd give an almost 100% certainty they'll say "no".

Yep - you win.

However, I'd be surprised if the anchors in the roof aren't present on all Turismos but you'd need to cut the head-lining to access them, or replace it with a different part (with shaped recesses/holes?).

I share your expectation that the receiver sockets very probably will be a standard fitting in every roof beam. Alas, it is quite a wager to cut into the liner - even if I knew the 4 exact placements where to cut. Moreover, I would need the fascias (anchors) to cover the holes and provide the receiver for the net.

(It would be useful to have our expectation confirmed by a mechanic perhaps who has removed the liner from a car without anchor points.)

I don't quite know where to go from here. One thought I had was suction cups against the glass roof. Those things can surprise with their holding power. Another idea may be to lash some netting thru the rear windows to the roof rails. Not ideal. But I had a look around in the after market and haven't found anything that is ideal. Which is partially owed to the one-shell seats of the Taycan which don't allow partitions to be clipped to the stays of your average headrest.

I ... have a grille to block the dog.

What does that look like? To be honest, I am not too bothered about our dog - I really cannot see it flying thru the tiny gap above the rear seats.

 

[ovonrein]

Alright. Inspired by recent demands from my various offspring to help with household moves, I expended some grey cells on the problem discussed and wish to share with this community the awesome solution I came up with in the interest of road safety. The solution kills two birds with one stone and is staggeringly simple, elegant and cheap. Here goes.

What you will need:
1 - a PVC U-Profile with the displayed dimensions. You want a black one but Jeff Bezos only had a white one available. That sucks for me but is great for you because it makes the pictures below clearer. Ideally you find one that "pinches", like the profile shown.

These things come in various lengths. You only need to cut 2x pieces ca 20cm in length. Precision is not required. The PVC cuts easily. I used a metal saw but you may get away with a kitchen knife. Deburr the cut.

2 - a bungee cord, terminated with carabiners (or hooks). I used 6mm x 230cm, as shown. Again, you have flexibility.

Let's proceed to accomplish two things: (i) protect the cockpit from curtain poles that turn into missiles in the even of a crash; (ii) find a home for the parcel shelf while abusing the Taycan as a removal van.

First, transform the articulated parcel shelf into a bulkhead.
To do that, remove both panels from the car and loosely fit together outside. Then turn the assembly on its side so that you face one hinge. Now, using only the force of your fingers and palm, wedge one U-profile between the hinge fittings and the panel, like so:

It may be a bit stiff but you can wiggle to get it in between. Next, fold down the U-Profile to span the gap to the articulated part of the shelf, and repeat over on the other side. As flimsy as each profile is, together they now perfectly lock the hinge. (Porsche could easily provide this solution be incorporating a locking bolt into the hinge. Help yourself, Porsche.)

Next, a small detail, wrap the two cords around the back and attach to their base - it will stop the cords from flapping around later.

Now, left-handed drivers will want to work on the rhs of the car, right-handed drivers on the lhs. Both start on the respective opposite side. Fold down the backrest half way and extend the headrest. Ideally you extend it beyond the point it will go, ie you proceed as though you planned to remove the headrest (see manual).

Next, lash the bungee cord to the lashing point in the rear passenger footwell, routing the cord over the coat hook and loosely letting the end fall on the flat seat back. (I took a picture but the black bungee cord had its revenge against my black seats. So you need to imagine the whole thing.)

Moving over to the main side, put down the back seats in the same manner. (I find it helps to move the front seats forward and work the headrests at the mid-point, rather than flatten the backseats fully and then attempt to remove the headrests.)

When the rear seats are down, lay the straightened parcel shelf flat on the floor of the cargo area, then pull the thing forward such that it comes to rest ON TOP OF the loose bungee cord with the edge of the panel aligning with the gap between seat back and headrest, like so:

Now simply pivot up the shelf such that it stands on the rods of the 3 headrests.

As you do this, finish the assembly by reaching for the loose bungee cord to pull it across the other coat hook and lash it to the opposite lashing point:

You would struggle to design a better fitting bulkhead if you tried. Perhaps it should be wider. Perhaps it won't be strong enough to stop gold bars penetrating the cockpit. But leaning against the front seats, it will easily stop loose items from flying into the cockpit.

PLUS - we found a place for the panel which we can restore to its rightful place as soon as the cargo has been delivered.

Safe travels, fellow dads.

PS: The profiles are very flimsy. You might have to run a flatheaded screw driver or similar to remove them without damage. But the required bits weight nothing and easily store away under the floor in the back when not in use.

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