2025 Turbo S or Turbo GT hunt

[Mr.Smith]

Sounds like a proper test drive if the tyres were giving up, great effort

I drove 120mph in 35mph zone, but if I didn't have someone from the dealer with me, it would have been a different story.

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[mystermykee]

I drove 120mph in 35mph zone, but if I didn't have someone from the dealer with me, it would have been a different story.

Jesus. How the heck were you able to find such an open and smooth road to do that...especially in LA?!

 

[Mr.Smith]

Jesus. How the heck were you able to find such an open and smooth road to do that...especially in LA?!

Outside of LA and in OC there are a lot of places. It takes around 9sec to hit that speed so it gets there in a blink of an eye

 

[f1eng]

On the Weissach, I agree. Can’t lock the car from my boot, but I have electric close.

OK!
Electric motors are heavy and I would imagine having any that can be avoided makes sense in the sporty, as opposed to luxury, version of a car.
Personally as an engineer who knows 10lbs less weight gave the same increase in performance as 10 extra horsepower in Formula 1 I would consider carefully the influence of anything adding weight to a sporty version.
I would have thought it would apply to the Turbo GT and just a bit more so to the Weissach version, which needs some extra weight saving to compensate for the additions.

I invented the active suspension, for example, at Williams to control the aerodynamic platform which, with the regulations of the day, was sensitive to a 1mm change in height, incredible though that may seem, not for a comfortable ride... The additional 1 to 2 secs per lap it enabled was well worth the extra weight and complexity at trhat time.

 

[whitex]

I have never had a car with soft close, so not sure how cool or exciting it is… But it’s something I don’t have, so of course I want it

I never had it, but have tried it on test drives of other cars, honestly did not see what all the hoopla is about. I didn't hate it, but not something I would rhapsodize about, nor put it on my must have list. I haven't driven PAR Taycan yet, but from everything I know, that would probably be only option I would really want from the J1 II car.

That said, if you really want to know an option that would likely push me to upgrade, that would be an anti-dazzle windshield - a windshield which tracks my head position and darkens only where the opposing traffic driver is oblivious to the fact that their high beams are on, or that their headlights are completely misadjusted. Kind of a reverse side of matrix headlight - rather than avoid blinding others, keep me from getting blinded. Ideally it would also work when driving into the sun at dusk or dawn. Buy hey, this is Porsche, so they would only offer such an option after at least 5 other manufacturers have been selling it for a while. Perhaps a Mercedes or one of the Chinese EV companies will come out with one first.

 

[whitex]

I drove 120mph in 35mph zone, but if I didn't have someone from the dealer with me, it would have been a different story.

Yea, there probably would have been a lot of screaming "get out of the car, I'm driving it back". Happened to me only once, but to be fair, I did what the sales guy suggested was required to activate torque vectoring (it was decades ago, 90's Honda Prelude - it had an indicator when TV was active and we never saw it light up, so he told me it would only activate if I took a sharp turn at high speed). I did nothing particularly dangerous, we left some skid marks drifting in a large parking lot, but I guess he didn't appreciate hitting the side window with his face. The torque vectoring still didn't kick in by the way. ?‍

 

[Caraholic]

Very interesting perspective from a tuned car. Makes that upgrade very enticing.

 

[KenR]

I guess the soft close motor would be mounted in the body rather than in the door? I am asking because of one of my observations from another thread:

The doors need more of a push to close them properly. Me and two other passengers failed to close the doors on several occasions. Theories please… I’ll begin -
a) Doors are lighter therefore needing more energy input to close them
b) Hinges are stiffer by design
c) Hinges are stiffer because they are new
d)...

 

[f1eng]

I guess the soft close motor would be mounted in the body rather than in the door? I am asking because of one of my observations from another thread:

The doors need more of a push to close them properly. Me and two other passengers failed to close the doors on several occasions. Theories please… I’ll begin -
a) Doors are lighter therefore needing more energy input to close them
b) Hinges are stiffer by design
c) Hinges are stiffer because they are new
d)...

A light door needs a firmer push to compress the door seals because it swings to with less inertia so more likely to not fully close as easily as a heavy one.

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

I have had soft-close doors on a few vehicles in the past. Never thought I needed or even wanted them until I didn't have them anymore
It feels like I lost something luxurious after having had, then lost the option (neither my Taycan or ZR1 has it, my previous M8, E63s and M5 had it). I think my wife's model X is what made me remember that option to begin with

 

[Flying ace]

I noticed the doors are a lot harder to close then my 2022 BMW X5, despite the door weighing about the same. My 7 year old also has difficulty opening and closing the door due to its weight. When I owned my 2014 M6, i frequently shut the door too soft (bc I was compensating for the feature) such that the soft close feature still could not latch it closed.

So soft close doesn't necessarily help, just design better doors and latches

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