Taycan battery may repeat Bolt battery disaster

[daveo4EV]

https://www.classaction.org/media/kukrika-v-porsche-cars-na-inc.pdf

damage done - this is never going away - this is going to get messy…

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[tonysmart]

I totally respect your point of view.
Still, though, the recall letter I received, at least for my european 2022 Taycan, did not mention any restrictions in charging or in parking. They just said they needed to check the battery and change some cells if required (and in my case this wasn t needed).

So yes, I totally understand that it would have been much better not to have any issue, but in a way any early adopter must know that when you buy a first gen product it will be far from perfect and you have to accept some problems.

I am just saying 2 simple things:
1) all the catastrophic threads give the (false) perception that every Taycan is a bomb ready to explode (and facts show that this is not really happening)
2) this product has so, so many pros (design, performance, drive experience, interior technology and so on) that I personally concentrate on its qualities.

But I understand people who got the ‘do not park/do not charge’ warning are really upset (and they are right). Just saying not everyone has got this message, I wonder how many did and how many did not.

 

[BjörnfromHamburg]

Same here, no parking or charging restrictions whatsoever, car works perfectly. Porsche will take care of the rest.
To much of panic to my taste.

 

[Tooney]

But I understand people who got the ‘do not park/do not charge’ warning are really upset (and they are right). Just saying not everyone has got this message, I wonder how many did and how many did not.

Information online from vehicle safety regulators in 3 countries show the following 2020-2024 Taycan VINs included in ARB6, the recall that advises owners not charge more than 80% (and in some countries not to park in/near buildings):
UK 5,097
USA 7,006
Canada 2,794

In USA an additional 20,054 VINs are in recall ARB7

 

[Caraholic]

I’m not personally worried about the car catching fire. What I am concerned about is holding the bag for this battery after warranty. It is pretty much a certainty the battery pouches will fail it’s just you don’t know when. If this was a 5-10k fix and it goes away okay not worried. The problem is it’s a 50-70k fix.

 

[chun]

Information online from vehicle safety regulators in 3 countries show the following 2020-2024 Taycan VINs included in ARB6, the recall that advises owners not charge more than 80% (and in some countries not to park in/near buildings):
UK 5,097
USA 7,006
Canada 2,794

In USA an additional 20,054 VINs are in recall ARB7

Add to that ARA4, for which my car got a whole module replaced. Also ARA5.
At least for my ARA4, i was still advised to not charge past 80%, and I continue to be even after module replacement until new monitoring software is deployed.
It's 40-50.000 cars recalled; putting it at preatty much one third (1/3) of all taycans sold are being recalled for battery issues...

I don't understand how people can go: "don't worry, all will be ok" when 1/3 of all taycans sold have confirmed battery issues.

Nobody is panicking, but you can't expect people to ignore the very real problem that this is...

 

[JaseH84]

Has anyone here with the ARB5 / ARB6 recall had their car fixed yet? Battery modules replaced and able to charge to 100% again? Or is this still not available? I was booked in on 6th Jan for ARB5 which has been pushed back to 17th Feb, and unsure if it will even be done then.

 

[chun]

Has anyone here with the ARB5 / ARB6 recall had their car fixed yet? Battery modules replaced and able to charge to 100% again? Or is this still not available? I was booked in on 6th Jan for ARB5 which has been pushed back to 17th Feb, and unsure if it will even be done then.

Until the new monitoring software is avaliable, even if you get your battery module replaced, you are still told to charge only up to 80% and depending on market (with less regulations), parking limitations are in place.

 

[tonysmart]

I’m not personally worried about the car catching fire. What I am concerned about is holding the bag for this battery after warranty. It is pretty much a certainty the battery pouches will fail it’s just you don’t know when. If this was a 5-10k fix and it goes away okay not worried. The problem is it’s a 50-70k fix.

The info I had was that the whole battery replacement, in case, is a 30000 euros job.
At least that what I have been told by the dealer.
Of course a lot of money, but surely not a 50-70k fix.

 

[daveo4EV]

I’m not personally worried about the car catching fire. What I am concerned about is holding the bag for this battery after warranty. It is pretty much a certainty the battery pouches will fail it’s just you don’t know when. If this was a 5-10k fix and it goes away okay not worried. The problem is it’s a 50-70k fix.

this!

 

[Caraholic]

The info I had was that the whole battery replacement, in case, is a 30000 euros job.
At least that what I have been told by the dealer.
Of course a lot of money, but surely not a 50-70k fix.

It is that price in the states once you include shop time. My battery repair alone was 42k

 

[OutrightPace]

I am concerned that Porsche's letter opens the door to a situation resembling the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 affair in 2016, where owners of the phone were forbidden from taking it anywhere and Samsung had to brick the phones and recall all of them. Much easier to do with a cell phone than an automobile, obviously...

 

[Vercingetorix]

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/11/jaguar-is-buying-back-2760-faulty-i-pace-evs-over-fire-risk/

LG pouch cell battery, fire risk, 80% charging limit, park outside, monitoring software. Sounds familiar?

My car is affected by the ARB6 issue, with 80% charging restriction. I have an appointment in late February, and even if the battery is fine, I still need to repeat this check every 60 days. It seems Porsche doesn't trust the battery beyond that timeframe, even after an inspection. The software update won’t fix the underlying problem—it will merely relieve Porsche of the need for these periodic 60-day checks.

GM and Jaguar did the right thing in the end. What will Porsche do?

Jaguar and electricity are mutually exclusive.

 

[chun]

https://ec.europa.eu/safety-gate-alerts/screen/webReport/alertDetail/10092672?lang=en

There's several, for all of europe, for each of the active battery recalls.

Intresting is that with every newer recall they add more details:
" A combination of production issues (such as a torn anode tab, a folded cathode tab, a peeled-off cathode or a double production topic pouch crack) was found in some of the batteries' high-voltage modules. Over the service life of the vehicle, these issues, when combined, can increase the risk of fire. "

While ARA4 says just production problem with the hv battery

 

[gatorfast]

Forgive my ignorance - who received these letters in the USA stating not to park the Taycan in a garage?

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