German Taycan burns down in Belgium

[TaxAcc]

Yesterday a German Taycan suddenly started to smoke on a highway in Belgium. The car burned down entirely. A mom and her child were safe and unharmed.
EV Taycan burns down in Belgium

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[ct14garage]

A sudden thermal event in the middle of the highway, without any sort of accident or impact.

Not doubt this is related to what I’ve been saying for a long time

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...with-shorted-out-battery-modules-video.27737/

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Any other well known EV in the world has already solved this problem. You might see a Tesla or a BYD develop a thermal event and be engulfed in a battery fire after an accident. Maybe you could even see a Tesla or a BYD suffer a thermal event while DC charging at high speed….

But during normal driving?! This has long been solved as the BMS has the mechanisms to prevent a thermal event during normal driving - opening the battery contactor thus isolating the battery.

It’s just Porsche’s BMS won’t open the contactor even when the situation inside the battery is a mess

 

[GTSS]

It would be interesting to know its ARB6/7 status and whether there are any records of regular checkups.

 

[chun]

It would be interesting to know its ARB6/7 status and whether there are any records of regular checkups.

Like all 150.000 taycans sold between Q4 2019 and Q3 2024, all have ARB6/7 status as recall active and not completed.

No matter how you put it, any sort of fire is Porsche's fault.

If fire is a high enough posibility, they should have sent a stop drive and started a buy back program or immediate battery replacmenet. They didn't.
They could have also software limited batteries to 80%, forcefully, but they didn't, because that would force them into warranty claims and forced buybacks in EU and NA.

Every step of the way in regards to this recall, Porsche chose the cheapest route, not the best or safest route for customers

If one of these catches fire in the public parking of a mall in europe, i'm almost sure porsche will be forced to send a stop drive and buyback program. They're just lucky it didn't happen yet.

 

[Taycan4S_UK]

Maybe they need to replace all gen 1 batteries with gen 2 so no one is injured!

 

[Tooney]

A sudden thermal event in the middle of the highway, without any sort of accident or impact.

Not doubt this is related to what I’ve been saying for a long time

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...with-shorted-out-battery-modules-video.27737/

———————-
Any other well known EV in the world has already solved this problem. You might see a Tesla or a BYD develop a thermal event and be engulfed in a battery fire after an accident. Maybe you could even see a Tesla or a BYD suffer a thermal event while DC charging at high speed….

But during normal driving?! This has long been solved as the BMS has the mechanisms to prevent a thermal event during normal driving - opening the battery contactor thus isolating the battery.

It’s just Porsche’s BMS won’t open the contactor even when the situation inside the battery is a mess

Could you explain the specifics of how other EVs have "solved this problem"?
Is their solution software only (the right software can either prevent and/or detect fires),

or does it require additional hardware (detectors, special connections to battery cells/modules, etc.),

or differently designed HV batteries?

 

[AutoX]

Is this the first report of a Taycan spontaneously catching fire?

 

[Bennachie]

'Like all 150.000 taycans sold between Q4 2019 and Q3 2024, all have ARB6/7 status as recall active and not completed.'

Not that I disagree with your post per se, BUT not all of that cohort have ARB6/7 active. There are a number of vehicles that have no notification as evidenced on these Forums (Fora) and in Forum Polls.

 

[ct14garage]

Could you explain the specifics of how other EVs have "solved this problem"?
Is their solution software only (the right software can either prevent and/or detect fires),

or does it require additional hardware (detectors, special connections to battery cells/modules, etc.),

or differently designed HV batteries?

The Taycan BMS is already capable of accurately assessing the isolation. And it does assess it accurately.

But then it does absolutely nothing. Still allows you to drive. Whereas other EVs would shut down the battery and it aint going nowhere….

software only!

 

[ct14garage]

'Like all 150.000 taycans sold between Q4 2019 and Q3 2024, all have ARB6/7 status as recall active and not completed.'

Not that I disagree with your post per se, BUT not all of that cohort have ARB6/7 active. There are a number of vehicles that have no notification as evidenced on these Forums (Fora) and in Forum Polls.

About 1 out of 10 Taycan doesnt have ARB6/ARB7 active.

Many cars have ARB6/ARB7 active in PCSS but owner has received no notification either.

 

[Bennachie]

So possibly 15,000 of one and goodness alone knows how many of the other........................?

 

[AutoX]

About 1 out of 10 Taycan doesnt have ARB6/ARB7 active.

Do you know why this is? Is there something different about these Taycan that are not affected by the recall?

 

[Gino]

It does make me nervous that it has been radio silence from PNA and my dealer other than PNA telling me on the phone that my 2021 RWD vehicle delivered in Jan/2022 has been cleared of ARB6/7 recalls and I can charge to 100% safely using my Porsche 125V charger. In the same breath they stated it is better to charge between 40% & 80% to extend the life expectancy of the HV battery.
What is curious to me is how they can say the ARB6/7 doesn’t apply to me when the software to monitor my vehicle has not been released.
I’m getting the feeling they simply told me what I wanted to hear but nothing they actually have ever put in writing.
The last thing I want is to burn down my garage & possibly my entire home because Porsche is trying to thread a needle between recalls & potential fires from normal charging or what is considered normal by all other EV standards. It doesn’t appear any other EV I know of is carrying this risk of spontaneous fire outside of collisions even if it’s only a very remote possibility.
I hope this comes to a head soon because I’m not even confident Porsche has eliminated this risk with J.1.2 batteries…

 

[ct14garage]

It does make me nervous that it has been radio silence from PNA and my dealer other than PNA telling me on the phone that my 2021 RWD vehicle delivered in Jan/2022 has been cleared of ARB6/7 recalls and I can charge to 100% safely using my Porsche 125V charger. In the same breath they stated it is better to charge between 40% & 80% to extend the life expectancy of the HV battery.
What is curious to me is how they can say the ARB6/7 doesn’t apply to me when the software to monitor my vehicle has not been released.
I’m getting the feeling they simply told me what I wanted to hear but nothing they actually have ever put in writing.
The last thing I want is to burn down my garage & possibly my entire home because Porsche is trying to thread a needle between recalls & potential fires from normal charging or what is considered normal by all other EV standards. It doesn’t appear any other EV I know of is carrying this risk of spontaneous fire outside of collisions even if it’s only a very remote possibility.
I hope this comes to a head soon because I’m not even confident Porsche has eliminated this risk with J.1.2 batteries…

Post the VIN i’ll check the status in PCSS… then you know if they lied or not

 

[Gino]

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