How good is your Taycan at winter?

[Grah_offline09]

I've had zero problems with the my Porsche app communicating with the car, in contrast I've had issues with the Tesla App communicating with my Tesla Model 3 LR that is about to be sent back

How have people been finding driving in icy conditions? Snow's disappeared where I am but it's -7 overnight and there's quite a bit of ice on the roads. I just don't know how confident I am in my mine as I've only had the Taycan for about 2 weeks, had no issues with my older Tesla as it's all-wheel drive with less rear bias than the Taycan.

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[Chalks99]

This is the first winter with my Taycan 4s. (It's my daily and parked on the driveway, not garaged.)

How do you find your performs on a very cold day?

I have a set of winter wheels and tyres and they are performing exceptionally well on the slush, snow (only a tiny amount so far) and generally thoughout our cold and wet winter days.

When it's a bit frosty, so perhaps down to -1, the pre heating function is great. 15 mins is all it needs so I can have a de-misted warm car with a heated wheel. Perfect.
(After company tax, this was a key reason I switched to an EV.)

However, today was -4 at 07:30 and perhaps got to -8 during the night.
Even with 35 mins preheating, the door glass was frozen and wouldn't drop, making it hard to open the door and then impossible to properly close it.
Only after another 10 mins with the heating on max could I fully close the door. I had to set off with it partly open - not ideal.
Tomorrow I will do 1 hour pre heating.

For such an expensive car, couldn't they have developed a simple solution to overcome this issue?
Perhaps a heating element in the rubber door seal and / or in the door where the glass freezes to a component?

The cold weather also batters the battery. 35 mins pre heating and a 6 mile / 12 min drive used 12 kW!

How do people manage in colder countries such as the Canadian winter?

Just windows not dropping when unlocked :-(

 

[Jhaas911]

Been driving my CT4 all week...

 

[chun]

How have people been finding driving in icy conditions? Snow's disappeared where I am but it's -7 overnight and there's quite a bit of ice on the roads. I just don't know how confident I am in my mine as I've only had the Taycan for about 2 weeks, had no issues with my older Tesla as it's all-wheel drive with less rear bias than the Taycan.

I've had a few unintentional "drifts" around roundabouts on Pirelli 20"s winter tires, last week, when weather decided it's too cold for snow, but not too cold for rain??? So water pretty much froze as soon as touching the road. But nothing unmanageable with appropriate driving

 

[Jhaas911]

Cayman GTS and 991.2, not so much

 

[KLHubb]

I find my 2020 4S to be a terrific winter car.
it has been 10-15 degrees F around here for the past week, and the car battery does just fine at those temps. The only problem I have had was when it was below zero and I tried to use Sport Plus.
That that case it prompted a "turtle" icon and reduced the driving speed. Returning to Normal solved the problem. The car's weight, 4 wheel drive, RWS, and snow tires make this car perfect for upstate NY....Just use lift when navigating deep snow.

 

[f1eng]

I've had zero problems with the my Porsche app communicating with the car, in contrast I've had issues with the Tesla App communicating with my Tesla Model 3 LR that is about to be sent back

How have people been finding driving in icy conditions? Snow's disappeared where I am but it's -7 overnight and there's quite a bit of ice on the roads. I just don't know how confident I am in my mine as I've only had the Taycan for about 2 weeks, had no issues with my older Tesla as it's all-wheel drive with less rear bias than the Taycan.

Mine is fine on winter tyres.

 

[W1NGE]

This is the first winter with my Taycan 4s. (It's my daily and parked on the driveway, not garaged.)

How do you find your performs on a very cold day?

I have a set of winter wheels and tyres and they are performing exceptionally well on the slush, snow (only a tiny amount so far) and generally thoughout our cold and wet winter days.

When it's a bit frosty, so perhaps down to -1, the pre heating function is great. 15 mins is all it needs so I can have a de-misted warm car with a heated wheel. Perfect.
(After company tax, this was a key reason I switched to an EV.)

However, today was -4 at 07:30 and perhaps got to -8 during the night.
Even with 35 mins preheating, the door glass was frozen and wouldn't drop, making it hard to open the door and then impossible to properly close it.
Only after another 10 mins with the heating on max could I fully close the door. I had to set off with it partly open - not ideal.
Tomorrow I will do 1 hour pre heating.

For such an expensive car, couldn't they have developed a simple solution to overcome this issue?
Perhaps a heating element in the rubber door seal and / or in the door where the glass freezes to a component?

The cold weather also batters the battery. 35 mins pre heating and a 6 mile / 12 min drive used 12 kW!

How do people manage in colder countries such as the Canadian winter?

Preheat will take quite some time to get through to the door seals - its not intended to. Suggest ensuring the seals are as dry as possible to prevent freezing. A problem on all frameless doors.

Best to preheat when connected to your EVSE along with a departure timer so that the car is heated whilst charging (if required). Aside from that a 10 min pre-heat should be sufficient for most given you will use the heated steering wheel and seats.

In any event cold temps are an EVs nemesis!

 

[Flying ace]

if you're using snow tires, what tire model are you using? How does it perform?

I ended up buying a dedicated set of Blizzak LM004 on 20s. Installing next week.

 

[Dabz]

Mine is a pain every time it’s very cold and icy. As expected, today it was very iced up and the first time this season I needed preheat. The app wouldn’t connect, had to go out and struggle to get in the car…thought it would break the door handles where the motors really struggled to open them. Had to switch on and wait for LTE before being able to preheat. 20 mins later it was still mainly iced up so had to scrape. Door wouldn’t close because the window wouldn’t drop.

this evening, again won’t preheat. No LTE even after an extended drive. Had to head while sat in the car the old fashioned way.

This is my second winter and I had similar issues last winter when really cold. LTE always seems to fail for me when I need to preheat due to heavy ice.

preheat was one of the biggest things I was excited for in an EV. Annoyingly it’s one of the few things that works excellently on our Mini EV despite that car being a disaster.

 

[Scandinavian]

Mine is a pain every time it’s very cold and icy. As expected, today it was very iced up and the first time this season I needed preheat. The app wouldn’t connect, had to go out and struggle to get in the car…thought it would break the door handles where the motors really struggled to open them. Had to switch on and wait for LTE before being able to preheat. 20 mins later it was still mainly iced up so had to scrape. Door wouldn’t close because the window wouldn’t drop.

I can understand that it is a pain with shifts like that in temperature, especially in the UK with normal wet and damp weather. It can really freeze up then.

But I can not understand at all why you would have to sit in the car and wait for LTE?
Just press the preheat button in the PCM and go back into your warm house!.

 

[Dabz]

I can understand that it is a pain with shifts like that in temperature, especially in the UK with normal wet and damp weather. It can really freeze up then.

But I can not understand at all why you would have to sit in the car and wait for LTE?
Just press the preheat button in the PCM and go back into your warm house!.

Must admit I didn’t realise that, thank you! That’ll help tomorrow morning because it still won’t connect to LTE

 

[Scandinavian]

Must admit I didn’t realise that, thank you! That’ll help tomorrow morning because it still won’t connect to LTE

There is an even simpler way if you sit in the car. The lower screen in centre console has a button with Preheat or similar on. Just press that.

Even better, as I understand you have done, is to set a time when the car should be ready in the car.

 

[cccmanhattan]

My car performs awesome in the snow

 

[ct4s]

Preheat will take quite some time to get through to the door seals - its not intended to. Suggest ensuring the seals are as dry as possible to prevent freezing. A problem on all frameless doors.

Best to preheat when connected to your EVSE along with a departure timer so that the car is heated whilst charging (if required). Aside from that a 10 min pre-heat should be sufficient for most given you will use the heated steering wheel and seats.

In any event cold temps are an EVs nemesis!

30+ mins heating and 21.5 degrees car temp wasn't enough on Thur for -3 temp but 1 hour and 24 degrees last night was fine for -6. That used 5% of the battery.
Shame the rear heated screen and mirrors can't be set in the timer.

The charging timer ends at 05:30 (end of usual Octopus cheap rate) but the heating timer is set for a 07:30 depart.
Which is fine because it uses the cheaper battery 7p / Kw price rather than the 4x standard grid price for that time of day.

Winter impact is interesting.
On 100% charge today, range was indicated at 199 miles (circa 245 in the summer).
Assuming I charge to 80% (when LTE works, which it didn't last night!) and try not to drop below 20% (to cover emergencies), means I have an effective winter range of 120 miles.

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