Let's talk tires & rims

[whitex]

One of my favorite graphics. The AS4 runs circles around the CrossClimate 2. In the wet it is especially scary. In snow I would take the later for sure though.

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[Vercingetorix]

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Tirerack.

 

[whitex]

Tirerack.

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[Vercingetorix]

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https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/spiderChart.jsp?ttid=270

 

[MoniqueDenver]

Replace your current winter tires with Michelin CrossClimate2 and run them the entire year.
Sell your 21’ setup.

Thanks, but my current 20" snow tires are blizzak and they got me through a nasty full ice storm on Vail Pass in Feb of last year. Every other car was doing cart wheels on the road. I like that set up.

It's the other three seasons I need (and currently have 21" rims/no tires.)

 

[MoniqueDenver]

That 45k is cut in 1/2 for the rears on staggered setups.
https://dgaddcosprod.blob.core.wind...-mdp43887-2019-warranty-flyer-quick-guide.pdf

Ah yes, I see. Helpful.

 

[MoniqueDenver]

I see why you like it. thanks!

 

[Jonathan S.]

Thanks, but my current 20" snow tires are blizzak and they got me through a nasty full ice storm on Vail Pass in Feb of last year. Every other car was doing cart wheels on the road. I like that set up.

It's the other three seasons I need (and currently have 21" rims/no tires.)

Yes, you mentioned earlier that your 20’ setup has winter tires. But your earlier description of your winter driving seemed like a perfect fit for the CC2. I probably drive more in snow than any Taycan owner in the U.S. yet I’m perfectly happy with the CC2 (and on my A6ar too).
Also, note that “Blizzak” means two entirely different winter tire model lines.

 

[KLHubb]

I drive 10 hour round trips once each week.
I find the Cross Climate II's to be a great long trip tire, ...quiet, smooth, compliant.
I have never felt snow-covered winter driving to be anything but great.

 

[jasonh]

That model receives universal rave reviews. In the three German car forums I’ve frequented in recent years, I’ve never come across a detractor. Even copes with light snow reasonably well for an all-season tire.

I’m happy running DWS 06’s on 21” rims right now. Have not yet tested on snow, but great in the cold Seattle rain. I’ve had them on other cars and they are quite good.

 

[Flying ace]

You and I are in a similar situation. I use Blizzak LM0005 on OE 20s this winter and got me through a snow storm.

Yesterday I just installed my OE 21s, still currently on Continental RX tires. I decided to run non-Porsche spec PS4s by spring next year. One thing I noticed was that my 21s had excess wear on the outer parts of the thread.

Anyways, bc I have dedicated winter tires, I elected to go with a summer tread for optimized performance, I'll probably regret it and sacrifice a lot of comfort.

 

[MoniqueDenver]

@Flying ace One of my friends was suggesting that I looked into doing just that. But last night the summer tires I could buy were twice the price and had only 15k miles. Good idea, but I'm struggling with execution.

@Jonathan S. Ok, ok, I looked up my snow tires: Blizzak LM005. I live in Denver (sunny/dry), but am a skier so drive up to the mountains in snow and ice storms regularly in the winter. (Except this year. We've had a horrific heat wave. Sadly, this year, I had the car and the tires that could handle anything and hotels and we've had the worst snow pack since I can remember.)

I'll buy All Seasons this week and expect them to last 2-3 years. I'm playing around with Agentic AI and within the next six months, I should be able to set up a shopper bot to start searching for a good deal on a set of 20" aero rims. I figure I have two years to buy them. I'll be interested to see if I can reclaim 5%-10% or range on new rims and tires designed for that purpose. I take a lot of long trips, so that little extra oomph would be worth it. I just wish I knew about this when I first bought the car. Oh well.

 

[SoccerMan94043]

@Flying ace One of my friends was suggesting that I looked into doing just that. But last night the summer tires I could buy were twice the price and had only 15k miles. Good idea, but I'm struggling with execution.

@Jonathan S. Ok, ok, I looked up my snow tires: Blizzak LM005. I live in Denver (sunny/dry), but am a skier so drive up to the mountains in snow and ice storms regularly in the winter. (Except this year. We've had a horrific heat wave. Sadly, this year, I had the car and the tires that could handle anything and hotels and we've had the worst snow pack since I can remember.)

I'll buy All Seasons this week and expect them to last 2-3 years. I'm playing around with Agentic AI and within the next six months, I should be able to set up a shopper bot to start searching for a good deal on a set of 20" aero rims. I figure I have two years to buy them. I'll be interested to see if I can reclaim 5%-10% or range on new rims and tires designed for that purpose. I take a lot of long trips, so that little extra oomph would be worth it. I just wish I knew about this when I first bought the car. Oh well.

LoL... you're going to spend more on the AI tokens than you'll save.

 

[Jonathan S.]

@MoniqueDenver Please accept my condolences on your ski season. We in New England have been monitoring that quite closely. Mainly for the purposes of gloating -- hey, we don't get to do that very often, so we're enjoying it while we can, hah!

Anyways ... yes, that is quite the drive from Denver, and fortunately I have survived driving up there -- slowly! -- for ski mountaineering races in various AWD SUV models with mere all-season tires.
(Actually, the scariest moments have been driving back down to the airport on dry roads when the flow of traffic is faster on those steep twisty descents than our relatively straight and flat interstates back East.)
Any Blizzak LM model is certainly a fine choice for a Central European / Performance winter tire on the Taycan.
But still, based on my experience driving on I-70 and my experience driving on snow w/ CC2, if I lived in Denver, I would still just run the CC2 on 20" Taycan setup year-round.
Now if instead I lived in, say, Leadville, I'd probably run a Blizzak WS model or some other Nordic / Studless winter tire model on a separate set of wheels.

As for treadlife, I can't remember the exact numbers for the CC2, and keeping track has been complicated by various pothole blowouts. (Most memorably half-a-dozen cars pulled off to the side of the road from one monstrosity.)
But it's been within the range of what would be considered normal. (Although I keep my tire pressures on the high side to avoid inner shoulder excessive wear.)
Range, kind of a moving target since I think some SoH degradation is starting to set in at ~66k. But fortunately the CCS1 scene in Northern New England is now so good that it's not a major concern any longer.

 

[MoniqueDenver]

LoL... you're going to spend more on the AI tokens than you'll save.

Not if I install a local model. ;-)

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