Part 3: The Quest for the Perfect Tune

[prj]

Has anyone completed the MapEV Tune on a J1.1 GTS?

The delta looks quite a bit more significant on the GTS vs. the Turbo as the gains in TQ are 2x at most speeds by comparison with the Turbo.

Any subjective feedback from users would be appreciated.

@prj Any 60-130 on a GTS before and after?

There's dozens of GTS's that have been tuned....

60-130mph I don't think I have have, but 100-200kmh for a GTS ST is on our instagram:
100-200 stock: 8.6s
100-200 MapEV: 6.54s

Very good model to tune because it's basically a detuned Taycan Turbo. So you get all the Turbo's power and then some.

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[iReminisce]

So I've had my MapEV tuned ASG in my car for about 3 weeks now, and I have yet to really do a proper Draggy test with it because its been raining every day here all month. But I will say, I've floored it for short bursts of time on open road and the power difference is bonkers. Like seriously, unless you are doing a drag or track focused build, I don't see why anyone would want more power than this on the road. Its insane and satisfyingly intoxicating, but can easily get you into some serious trouble.
My car already pulled hard at highway speeds. But I did a pull from about 55 on a clear highway drive with no car in sight of me this past week and it was insane. I probably still have it on my dash cam where I said "holy sh--" as I watched the speedometer shoot up in the blink of an eye. Once the rain clears up down here, I'm hoping to go to a strip or a closed off road and get some draggy numbers, but no doubt this has dramatically improved the power and throttle response, and for the price, support (every email was responded to in minutes), and performance gain, I am EXTREMELY happy.

J1.1 Taycan Turbo

 

[Vision]

So I've had my MapEV tuned ASG in my car for about 3 weeks now, and I have yet to really do a proper Draggy test with it because its been raining every day here all month. But I will say, I've floored it for short bursts of time on open road and the power difference is bonkers. Like seriously, unless you are doing a drag or track focused build, I don't see why anyone would want more power than this on the road. Its insane and satisfyingly intoxicating, but can easily get you into some serious trouble.
My car already pulled hard at highway speeds. But I did a pull from about 55 on a clear highway drive with no car in sight of me this past week and it was insane. I probably still have it on my dash cam where I said "holy sh--" as I watched the speedometer shoot up in the blink of an eye. Once the rain clears up down here, I'm hoping to go to a strip or a closed off road and get some draggy numbers, but no doubt this has dramatically improved the power and throttle response, and for the price, support (every email was responded to in minutes), and performance gain, I am EXTREMELY happy.

J1.1 Taycan Turbo

Nice, where in FL?. I would love to see the 60-130mph if you can find a spot!.

 

[iReminisce]

Nice, where in FL?. I would love to see the 60-130mph if you can find a spot!.

I'm in Miami, FL, and the roads have quite literally been wet or downpour minor flooding all month every time I have a moment to go for a ride. Will try to get some numbers this week.

 

[Vonlutt]

I've been following these threads for a few weeks and have read most of the comments but may have missed this being answered. I picked up my 2025 Taycan GTS this weekend and I am considering making this purchase (waiting on the BMW ENET Cable to be delivered in the next couple of days).

Since I purchased it outright, from your (or anyone's) opinion what kind of impact will this modification have on the battery or power train long term? I won't be flooring it/driving it very hard, and I can't imagine I would have really used the launch feature at all, so if I am driving it pretty tamely can I expect any real degradation from this upgrade on the battery or power train? Obviously it will be driven a little bit harder having this accessible, but just curious if this will cause any unexpected impacts to long term battery health or wear and tear?

Same question for range -if I am driving it tamely in Normal will there be any additional impact to range?

Thank you for your time.

 

[prj]

I've been following these threads for a few weeks and have read most of the comments but may have missed this being answered. I picked up my 2025 Taycan GTS this weekend and I am considering making this purchase (waiting on the BMW ENET Cable to be delivered in the next couple of days).

Since I purchased it outright, from your (or anyone's) opinion what kind of impact will this modification have on the battery or power train long term? I won't be flooring it/driving it very hard, and I can't imagine I would have really used the launch feature at all, so if I am driving it pretty tamely can I expect any real degradation from this upgrade on the battery or power train? Obviously it will be driven a little bit harder having this accessible, but just curious if this will cause any unexpected impacts to long term battery health or wear and tear?

Same question for range -if I am driving it tamely in Normal will there be any additional impact to range?

Thank you for your time.

No to both of those questions.
The motor and battery loads stay within the limits allowed by Porsche. Only the commercial limits are removed.

Range is not affected.

 

[Vonlutt]

No to both of those questions.
The motor and battery loads stay within the limits allowed by Porsche. Only the commercial limits are removed.

Range is not affected.

Thanks for the prompt reply and taking time to answer. I'll have an order in to you in the next week or so. Thank you

 

[MidwestPCar]

@prj and others
I have a question about the anti-surge dampers alone. I read through all 21 pages of forum text before asking. I generally drive in the city in my 2020 4S, in tight traffic. The only small downside I need improved is what I perceive as a "delay" on acceleration. I presume it's because of the anti-surge dampers. It feels like the car is "laggy" to pedal input (albeit admittedly more refined). When I try to close a spot in traffic, there's a gap before I get there.
In the older ICE cars (BMW and Porsche), there were modules (Sprint Booster, etc.) which in addition to changing pedal response rate, also claimed to eliminate this "programmed delay (for refinement)". I found this to be true. Even at base mode, just eliminating this "programmed delay" seemed to turn it into a more responsive car.

Does the tune significantly reduce this delay? How much does this tune help/gain (theoretically) from just eliminating the "delay" vs eliminating power limits (which has had lots of discussion)?

My use case is clearly different from those wanting faster 60-200, I want a more "responsive car", for e.g. in high speed traffic, when keeping tight or merging with moving traffic, or when going from stop sign to the next.

Thanks

Another detail I noticed - for an EV the car has a significant amount of throttle delay. It takes 0.2-0.4s for the power to fully come in depending on drive mode.
This is caused by a set of modules called "Anti-surge dampers". One is on the powertrain torque path and another on wheel torque path.

They have two tasks:
a) Protect the drivetrain from excessive lash and bucking
b) Add refinement to the driving characteristics of the car

The easy way out is to just disable the torque filtering. However, this results in jerky behaviour in normal driving and is also unnecessarily hard on the drivetrain.

Luckily, the ASG has a special module to combat this throttle delay, which is disabled and not calibrated from factory. The English translation is "unfiltered driver request in case of pre-tensioned drivetrain".
Essentially you set a minimum forward torque and a maximum torque request gradient. If the minimum forward torque is fulfilled (the drivetrain is tensioned) and the torque request gradient (how fast you mash the loud pedal) exceeds the preset value, the filter is bypassed.

After calibration of the modules the end result worked exactly as expected - car drives refined like stock in normal situations, but when you make a sudden throttle change the delay is greatly reduced.

When you tie all this together with setting the launch bit + damper hardening and TC action plus some power increase, the end result is quite impressive compared to stock when you floor the car at speed.

 

[prj]

1. Sprint booster
The only thing this does is cheat the accelerator pedal input, so when you press e.g. 20% it presses 40% for you. Nothing else. It does not take care of any delay or accomplish anything that you couldn't do by mashing the throttle harder.

2. The Taycan slow response is due to two things:
a) The Gearbox - If you have sport chrono, then configure individual mode to have everything in comfort and the drive in sport. This will make the gearbox stay in first gear and will give you a much better response.
b) The anti surge damper delay - tune takes care of it on sharp throttle movements and gives you better response, but compared to a) this is a small difference.

If you are happy with the power, then try a) first, you might not need to do anything else.

 

[MidwestPCar]

1. Sprint booster
The only thing this does is cheat the accelerator pedal input, so when you press e.g. 20% it presses 40% for you. Nothing else. It does not take care of any delay or accomplish anything that you couldn't do by mashing the throttle harder.

2. The Taycan slow response is due to two things:
a) The Gearbox - If you have sport chrono, then configure individual mode to have everything in comfort and the drive in sport. This will make the gearbox stay in first gear and will give you a much better response.
b) The anti surge damper delay - tune takes care of it on sharp throttle movements and gives you better response, but compared to a) this is a small difference.

If you are happy with the power, then try a) first, you might not need to do anything else.

Thanks for the response.
Unfortunately I don't have sport chrono. Does putting it in sport mode via the button essentially accomplish the same responsiveness? (perhaps I can combine that with manually switching suspension mode)

 

[prj]

Thanks for the response.
Unfortunately I don't have sport chrono. Does putting it in sport mode via the button essentially accomplish the same responsiveness? (perhaps I can combine that with manually switching suspension mode)

Yes, it does. But I think without Sport Chrono you have to do this every time (push the sport button and then put the dampers to comfort).

It is also possible to remap the ASG so that it holds gears as high in normal as it does in sport, I have done that for someone in the past. And then range mode is always 2nd gear.

 

[MidwestPCar]

Yes, it does. But I think without Sport Chrono you have to do this every time (push the sport button and then put the dampers to comfort).

It is also possible to remap the ASG so that it holds gears as high in normal as it does in sport, I have done that for someone in the past. And then range mode is always 2nd gear.

Thank you. Something for me to ponder.

 

[prj]

Here's a 100-200 km/h from a roll on a J1.1 Taycan 4 Cross Turismo.
Before (13.99s):

After (6.85s):

 

[taycan_bud]

Impressive, half time with the tune

 

[prj]

J1.2 Taycan 4S put down 900 WHP at 70% SoC on a dynojet with our tune.

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