SAE is standardizing the NACS connector – making it less dependent on Tesla

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SAE is standardizing NACS – making it less dependent on Tesla

SAE is Standardizing NACS Connector




https://electrek.co/2023/06/27/sae-standardizing-nacs-less-dependent-on-tesla/

SAE International today announced it will standardize the Tesla-developed North American Charging Standard (NACS) connector. This will ensure that any supplier or manufacturer will be able to use, manufacture, or deploy the NACS connector on electric vehicles (EVs) and at charging stations across North America. Ford Motor Company, General Motors, Rivian, and a number of EV charging companies recently announced plans to adopt the NACS connector through adaptors or future product offerings.

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Capt Mike said:

What is Porsche’s response to this?

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gtm said:

Sort of an indirect reply from VW through EA. Sounds like they are accepting NACS as inevitable.

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gtm said:

Electrify America to offer Tesla's EV charging connector by 2025

https://eresearch.fidelity.com/eres...ryid=202306291302RTRSNEWSCOMBINED_L4N38L3AC_1

Sort of an indirect reply from VW through EA. Sounds like they are accepting NACS as inevitable. Why it will take EA until 2025 is a mystery. Charge Point just announced that their equipment can now be had with NACS and retrofits are available.

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WasserGKuehlt said:

Here's the direct reply: Volkswagen in discussions with Tesla over its charging standard | Reuters

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Capt Mike said:

So does that mean we have to change the receiving unit on our cars? I know that's a stupid question but don't Tesla's chargers have a different interactivity?

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Capt Mike said:

So does that mean we have to change the receiving unit on our cars? I know that's a stupid question but don't Tesla's chargers have a different interactivity?

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gtm said:

Our cars would require a Tesla to CCS1 adapter. Apparently easy to do (it already exists at the Magic Dock stations). Software behind the scenes might not be quite as easy to allow non-Tesla vehicles to charge at a Supercharger but multiple manufacturers have signed on to NACS so it can't be a huge undertaking.

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daveo4EV said:

shouldn't need software changes to the vehicle with Adatper, because if you're using the adatper a Tesla supercharger is negotiating a CCS charging session - no plug&charge support, but app based activation and you get a CCS session…this Is the the only practical way forward. Otherwise Tesla's stations with magic dock would not work with my unmodified 2020 Taycan Turbo.

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Electrify America will continue to provide the Combined Charging System (CCS-1) connector throughout its network as it transitions to also support automakers adding NACS charging ports. The company will work to offer a NACS connector option at existing and future charging stations by 2025 to make charging as convenient as possible for EV owners.

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Capt Mike said:

So does that mean we have to change the receiving unit on our cars? I know that's a stupid question but don't Tesla's chargers have a different interactivity?

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daveo4EV said:

shouldn't need software changes to the vehicle with Adatper, because if you're using the adatper a Tesla supercharger is negotiating a CCS charging session - no plug&charge support, but app based activation and you get a CCS session…this Is the the only practical way forward. Otherwise Tesla's stations with magic dock would not work with my unmodified 2020 Taycan Turbo.

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gtm said:

I was mostly thinking of the behind the scenes work necessary to allow plug and charge and make all the necessary billing. I have been encouraged by your "exploits" using the Magic Dock. You have demonstrated that It is absolutely possible with our cars as they are now equipped.

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• plug&charge support at Electrify America _ONLY_ due to exiting limitations in CCS plug&charge support
• new CCS plug&charge standard for multi-network vendor support - then you'll see plug&charge support at other charging vendors - and it will be Tesla's "move" to add support for any new CCS plug&charge standard to their app/charging site software

daveo4EV said:

plug&charge will come eventually - but everyone is behind the 8 ball here - CCS protocols plug&charge needs further evolution to support "multiple networks"

so I think for the foreseeable future (out unit at least 2027 or later vehicles w/software updates) in North America is works as follows:

• plug&charge support at Electrify America _ONLY_ due to exiting limitations in CCS plug&charge support
• new CCS plug&charge standard for multi-network vendor support - then you'll see plug&charge support at other charging vendors - and it will be Tesla's "move" to add support for any new CCS plug&charge standard to their app/charging site software

app based charge session activation will be the norm at least through 2026 MY vehicle's…

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daveo4EV said:

plug&charge will come eventually - but everyone is behind the 8 ball here - CCS protocols plug&charge needs further evolution to support "multiple networks"

so I think for the foreseeable future (out unit at least 2027 or later vehicles w/software updates) in North America is works as follows:

• plug&charge support at Electrify America _ONLY_ due to exiting limitations in CCS plug&charge support
• new CCS plug&charge standard for multi-network vendor support - then you'll see plug&charge support at other charging vendors - and it will be Tesla's "move" to add support for any new CCS plug&charge standard to their app/charging site software

app based charge session activation will be the norm at least through 2026 MY vehicle's…

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