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Yes, I too had a cold car this morning. I left at 8:15 and had a departure time of 9:05. I'm going to set a departure of 8:45 tomorrow and see what happens. It is annoying that you can't just set the cabin to heat for 10 mins before getting in it. I have the Mini Cooper SE as well and that works fine.
Use a separate timer for the cabin heating if required although you should be able to combine without difficulty.
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Use a separate timer for the cabin heating if required although you should be able to combine without difficulty.
Not sure I follow. Is there a separate timer for just cabin heating?
 

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Ideal if you do this when connected to your EVSE to save battery.
Do you ever see the car actually use the EVSE to preheat? I have not done any exhaustive testing, but watched my car while connected to an EVSE to start preheating. Even a couple of minutes into it, the EVSE was not being used (it was briefly enabled by the car when it woke for maybe 2 seconds). With a Tesla (drove those for a decade), the shore power is always used to save cycling of the battery, it is clearly noticeable if you watch the car after engaging preheat. Heck, Tesla uses shore power first always when plugged in (e.g. if the car is plugged in and you enter and turn it on, all the power for HVAC and and even the 12V is powered from the EVSE, if it can provide up to 3-4KW), not so in a Taycan. I never had enough patience to sit in a fully charged Taycan with it on byt plugged into the EVSE, and watch the battery SoC drop to see when it would actually engage the EVSE and at what charge rate. Will it just let it drop by few percent then charge at full rate (19.2KW in my case) back to target SoC, so essentially continue to cycle/discharge-charge the battery while in use and plugged in?
 
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Yes, I too had a cold car this morning. I left at 8:15 and had a departure time of 9:05. I'm going to set a departure of 8:45 tomorrow and see what happens. It is annoying that you can't just set the cabin to heat for 10 mins before getting in it. I have the Mini Cooper SE as well and that works fine.

Well this mornings experiment didn't work. With a Preheat departure time of 8:45am, I checked the car at 8:10am and it was stone cold. Out side temp was quite cold at around 6 degC. So I am guessing the warming time for the timed preheat isn't the same flat 60min that is states when you manually trigger the preheat, meaning frigging the departure time to limit the amount of battery used to warm the cabin is a non-starter.

In the end I set it to warm manually at 8:10 and by 8:15 it was good enough. It's a shame as my Mini works perfectly. With the Porsche I will need to adopt the same process as used with an ICE and manually start it.
 


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Well this mornings experiment didn't work. With a Preheat departure time of 8:45am, I checked the car at 8:10am and it was stone cold. Out side temp was quite cold at around 6 degC. So I am guessing the warming time for the timed preheat isn't the same flat 60min that is states when you manually trigger the preheat, meaning frigging the departure time to limit the amount of battery used to warm the cabin is a non-starter.

In the end I set it to warm manually at 8:10 and by 8:15 it was good enough. It's a shame as my Mini works perfectly. With the Porsche I will need to adopt the same process as used with an ICE and manually start it.
Mine heats in 5 - 10 mins. Sounds like there is a setting conflict rather than a fault.
 
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You can create a timer (departure timer) which only has the air conditioning / heating set and is independent of any other timers.
Yeah, this is what I have been using (with charging deselected). When I used it with a correct departure time set it used 5% of my battery to warm the car, which seemed excessive.
 
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Mine heats in 5 - 10 mins. Sounds like there is a setting conflict rather than a fault.
Do you mean 5-10 mins from when you manually trigger it? If so, I agree, mine does too. It just seesm that when triggered from the timer it starts warming up way earlier than 10 mins.

In fact, if I manually start it and get in the car after 10 mins it has used 1% battery, if I use the app and timer it uses 5%.
 


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Do you mean 5-10 mins from when you manually trigger it? If so, I agree, mine does too. It just seesm that when triggered from the timer it starts warming up way earlier than 10 mins.

In fact, if I manually start it and get in the car after 10 mins it has used 1% battery, if I use the app and timer it uses 5%.
I generally do 'it manually prior to departure (if I remember).

Battery usage and reported usage will fluctuate after preheat is finished and you may see something added back to the reported charge.

We never really considered the.need for preheat in a non EV unless you lived in the Attic circle where most cars could be ordered with preheat along with an additional battery.

Truth is your Taycan heats up quickly aided by the heat pump which is standard in our market. Therefore I'd go manual 9 times out of 10 if not planned ahead and combine with a specific departure time.
 

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Well this mornings experiment didn't work. With a Preheat departure time of 8:45am, I checked the car at 8:10am and it was stone cold. Out side temp was quite cold at around 6 degC. So I am guessing the warming time for the timed preheat isn't the same flat 60min that is states when you manually trigger the preheat, meaning frigging the departure time to limit the amount of battery used to warm the cabin is a non-starter.

In the end I set it to warm manually at 8:10 and by 8:15 it was good enough. It's a shame as my Mini works perfectly. With the Porsche I will need to adopt the same process as used with an ICE and manually start it.
See my post above. I think the time is dependent on the temperature and at the moment takes about 20 minutes if you set a departure timer
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