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This past weekend I had a couple of chances to charge the Taycan at a new Mercedes High-Speed Charger. Specifically, the one that just opened in South Windsor CT, just off i84. MB is using Alpitronics 400KW chargers, and this was my first time charging from one of those. I thought I'd write a few notes here.

I've had my Taycan for about 10 months now. In that time, my experience with Electrify America has been pretty positive. With one exception, I've plugged in and the car has just charged. The one time that failed, I had to switch plugs once, due to a communications fault. I've also seen good charging rates unless I've been sharing power. I very often see 300+KW, and most of the time the charger delivers what the car is requesting. But most EA installations are small - 4-6 plugs has been typical in my experience - often located in the remotest and most forlorn part of someone else's parking lot, and without so much as a trash can for amenities. I know EA has been much worse in the past, and from my experience that comes down to their older equipment being unreliable.

So I was really curious to see what the experience would be like at a Mercedes charging station, with the Alpitronics chargers that have been getting favorable reviews from all over.

And the answer: pretty good. But there are some frustrating problems.

First the good stuff: the parking spots are nice and wide, so there's more space to maneuver heavy cables and bulky connectors. The cable is the bulkiest I've used yet, but it's held by an overhead arm that swings out in front of the charger when pulled. Also, they're using connectors with separate handles, and it's easier to twist these to line them up with the plug on the car. The station is well-lit, though on my second visit it was quite late and this whole area was deserted, so if security is on your mind that might matter.

The chargers themselves seem excellent. I arrived with just under 50% charge, and stopped at 80%, so both sessions were pretty short. I hit 305KW both times, and the chargers always delivered what the car was asking for (the J1.2 Taycan displays both what the car wants and what the station is delivering on the left tube of the dashboard).

The cost was $.36/KWh, which I think is the cheapest I've seen.

Software, however, continues to disappoint. Specifically, the process for starting the charging session. On both stops, it took 3-5 tries to get started. There were a few different problems. The main screen shows a list of steps when you walk up to it (I didn't photograph it, alas). Following them does not always lead to success. You plug the car in first, then scan your credit card (I didn't try paying with an app, and they currently only support plug-n-charge for Mercedes cars), then the main screen asks you to tell it which plug you're using, then talks to the car and starts the session. In theory.

In practice, sometimes the main screen directs you to follow prompts on the credit card terminal...which is blank and unresponsive. Other times you'll get past that to the step where you're selecting the cable, but the main screen doesn't display the plug numbers, and both plugs are CCS1, so you have to guess which option goes with which plug. Sometimes neither plug selection button will work. Sometimes one of the plugs is shown with a bigger icon than the other, which might be because it's plugged into a car? But then you can't select it.

And sometimes it all works. I didn't experience any car communications failures - all the failures were the charger failing to talk to pieces of itself.

This is still a nice option, and I'll continue to stop here. There's a Whole Foods right behind the car in this picture, and it has EVGo chargers, so this is one of the few stops in my area with multiple charging options and food in one place. But it is frustrating that this experience isn't completely worked out by now.

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I've only used the BP Pulse Alpitronic units. The payment process is finicky too. On the BP unit the quickest way is to select the handle number on the terminal (not the screen), and then tap payment.

I was also successful in selecting the handle in the app.

For BP the tap with the app on the unit screen doesn't activate. I'm guessing phone is confusing the unit whether it's digital wallet (doesn't work, activate on terminal) or the app trying to activate.
 

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This past weekend I had a couple of chances to charge the Taycan at a new Mercedes High-Speed Charger. Specifically, the one that just opened in South Windsor CT, just off i84. MB is using Alpitronics 400KW chargers, and this was my first time charging from one of those. I thought I'd write a few notes here.

I've had my Taycan for about 10 months now. In that time, my experience with Electrify America has been pretty positive. With one exception, I've plugged in and the car has just charged. The one time that failed, I had to switch plugs once, due to a communications fault. I've also seen good charging rates unless I've been sharing power. I very often see 300+KW, and most of the time the charger delivers what the car is requesting. But most EA installations are small - 4-6 plugs has been typical in my experience - often located in the remotest and most forlorn part of someone else's parking lot, and without so much as a trash can for amenities. I know EA has been much worse in the past, and from my experience that comes down to their older equipment being unreliable.

So I was really curious to see what the experience would be like at a Mercedes charging station, with the Alpitronics chargers that have been getting favorable reviews from all over.

And the answer: pretty good. But there are some frustrating problems.

First the good stuff: the parking spots are nice and wide, so there's more space to maneuver heavy cables and bulky connectors. The cable is the bulkiest I've used yet, but it's held by an overhead arm that swings out in front of the charger when pulled. Also, they're using connectors with separate handles, and it's easier to twist these to line them up with the plug on the car. The station is well-lit, though on my second visit it was quite late and this whole area was deserted, so if security is on your mind that might matter.

The chargers themselves seem excellent. I arrived with just under 50% charge, and stopped at 80%, so both sessions were pretty short. I hit 305KW both times, and the chargers always delivered what the car was asking for (the J1.2 Taycan displays both what the car wants and what the station is delivering on the left tube of the dashboard).

The cost was $.36/KWh, which I think is the cheapest I've seen.

Software, however, continues to disappoint. Specifically, the process for starting the charging session. On both stops, it took 3-5 tries to get started. There were a few different problems. The main screen shows a list of steps when you walk up to it (I didn't photograph it, alas). Following them does not always lead to success. You plug the car in first, then scan your credit card (I didn't try paying with an app, and they currently only support plug-n-charge for Mercedes cars), then the main screen asks you to tell it which plug you're using, then talks to the car and starts the session. In theory.

In practice, sometimes the main screen directs you to follow prompts on the credit card terminal...which is blank and unresponsive. Other times you'll get past that to the step where you're selecting the cable, but the main screen doesn't display the plug numbers, and both plugs are CCS1, so you have to guess which option goes with which plug. Sometimes neither plug selection button will work. Sometimes one of the plugs is shown with a bigger icon than the other, which might be because it's plugged into a car? But then you can't select it.

And sometimes it all works. I didn't experience any car communications failures - all the failures were the charger failing to talk to pieces of itself.

This is still a nice option, and I'll continue to stop here. There's a Whole Foods right behind the car in this picture, and it has EVGo chargers, so this is one of the few stops in my area with multiple charging options and food in one place. But it is frustrating that this experience isn't completely worked out by now.
this a great report thanks!
 

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Ooh, CCS1 DCFC adjacent to Whole Foods, the ultimate combination for my wife!
Seriously though, despite being off our usual I-91 travels, nice to know that network is expanding in New England.
Although the handshake problems are puzzling. Even all those lame ChargePoint 62.6kW DCFC and ~6kW AC units, at least they ALWAYS start up immediately via Apple Wallet with my ChargePoint RFID card. Why can’t other networks copy that? It’s not like ChargePoint is some sort of cutting-edge technology innovator otherwise.
 


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Ooh, CCS1 DCFC adjacent to Whole Foods, the ultimate combination for my wife!
I always used to avoid stopping on road trips, but I have to admit I've been enjoying the 10-15 minute stops that come with long trips in the EV, even if most of them are just in ugly parking lots. Some part of that is really foolish: I like admiring the car from the outside. But I'm not above a good sandwich either.

Puzzling really is the right word for handshake problems between the charger and its own credit card terminal. Surely the flow of ask-for-thing, pay-for-thing-with-card, receive-thing is well-trodden ground. I've never had a gas pump fail to talk to its own card reader.
 

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^ Same here - when the time is spent charging, as opposed to waiting for a charge (which can be tricky given the lack of a queuing space) and dealing with handshake problems.
(By contrast, actually charging time, I can pull out my laptop and be productive, or goof around on my phone.)
I’ve also enjoyed talking with my fellow EV drivers.
(Except at Tesla stations. Nobody lingers outside to talk. Plus they all have either the 3 or Y, so can’t have interesting conversations about their car models.)
By contrast, when was the last time you dared talked with anyone at a gas pump? Although given that gas station payment problems almost never happen, and given that only a few minutes are necessary to fill a tank, would be much time for a conversation!
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