Can I trust the brakes?

[Dr.Ericthedrill]

Hi Guys,
I have been babying my 4S and only recently when the weather was great had I been doing some spirited driving.
However, I feel quite uneasy with the brake feel. I am a past owner of various sports and supercars, so I am used to good braking performance. The Taycan felt I had to really push the brakes in to get meaningful stopping power when entering corners at speed. I am just so so so afraid I'll end up in a ditch.
I know the car is dead heavy but can I trust Porsche? They are meant to have one of the best brakes in the business right?
Anyone feels the same?

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[Archimedes]

My brakes (PSCB) feel fantastic, even in heavy braking situations.

 

[Fish Fingers]

Hi Guys,
I have been babying my 4S and only recently when the weather was great had I been doing some spirited driving.
However, I feel quite uneasy with the brake feel. I am a past owner of various sports and supercars, so I am used to good braking performance. The Taycan felt I had to really push the brakes in to get meaningful stopping power when entering corners at speed. I am just so so so afraid I'll end up in a ditch.
I know the car is dead heavy but can I trust Porsche? They are meant to have one of the best brakes in the business right?
Anyone feels the same?

Which model and brakes have you got?

 

[Dr.Ericthedrill]

I have the Taycan 4S. The brakes are standard steel coated ones.

 

[gnop1950]

I'm not sure what you mean by "trusting" the brakes. All cars, including the Taycan, have passed numerous safety tests including braking. Unless you are having a specific problem with your brakes it should be simply a matter of getting used to the car you are driving.

I've owned many cars in my life, I'm an older fellow. Every car I've ever owned had a bit of a different feel to the brakes, some were very different. If you feel that there is something wrong by all means take it in and have the mechanics take a look.

If this is your first EV, from reading these forums, the blending of regenerative and mechanical breaking may feel a bit different but supposedly feels very similar to an ICE car.

 

[Dr.Ericthedrill]

Maybe I will try to more accurately describe the feeling...
I have the Regen set to "on" not auto.
I am driving on a twisty road in a spirited way. When entering the corner I apply the brakes but felt that I had to put much more effort into it to get a good bite of the disc.
I hope this description helps.

 

[OTPSkipper]

They are blended breaks, but I think they should feel “right”. You shouldn’t have to press harder or have more peddle movement than you would on any other high performance car. Because they are blended breaks, there is more to go wrong. Probably not in a safety kind of way, but in a feel kind of way. I would get it looked at by the dealer.

When you were aggressively stopping, how many Gs were you pulling? Up to .6 is supposed to be regen. After that it is mechanical breaks. When it is doing regen breaking, the pedal feedback is computer generated. Maybe the feedback part is not working right on your car.

 

[Archimedes]

I have the Taycan 4S. The brakes are standard steel coated ones.

What are steel coated brakes? Do you have the iron rotors with red calipers?

 

[Dr.Ericthedrill]

Sorry I meant Iron rotors that's coated in Tungsten.
PSCB I think it's called. Calipers are red.

 

[powderpc]

Maybe I will try to more accurately describe the feeling...
I have the Regen set to "on" not auto.
I am driving on a twisty road in a spirited way. When entering the corner I apply the brakes but felt that I had to put much more effort into it to get a good bite of the disc.
I hope this description helps.

How fast are you going? Unless you’re taking your corners at 100 mph / 120 km/h I don’t think you have anything to worry about. The regen alone is braking you very rapidly if you lift off the accelerator. If you are late braking then yeah you’re going to mash a bit with regen on and find the friction brakes kicking in once you push harder. I don’t really find that a safe way to drive in public / remote places so I’m not sure if that’s what you’re doing. If you want a more normal brake feel then you should turn regen off but unless you’re on the track I don’t see the point since the regen back to “legal” speeds makes every hard acceleration feel like bonus points.

 

[Archimedes]

Sorry I meant Iron rotors that's coated in Tungsten.
PSCB I think it's called. Calipers are red.

If you have red calipers, you have base iron rotors, not the surface coated PSCBs.

 

[B61]

Maybe I will try to more accurately describe the feeling...
I have the Regen set to "on" not auto.
I am driving on a twisty road in a spirited way. When entering the corner I apply the brakes but felt that I had to put much more effort into it to get a good bite of the disc.
I hope this description helps.

How old is your car, I mean, how many miles are behind you?

 

[TaycanHero]

There are a number of threads about braking issues that you may be encountering:

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...i-die-please-have-my-family-sue-porsche.9048/

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/strange-braking-issue.4818/

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/softer-brakes-post-update.5563/

Though I am not an owner yet, I too noticed "spongey" brakes on a 30 minute test drive in a 4S CT. Granted it is purely anecdotal as my driving time is almost non-existent, but it was enough to be 1. Noticeable 2. Bad enough that I was seriously considering upgrading the brakes on my build.

Turns out it may have been one of the various braking issues that owners have reported, and that did need a visit to the workshop.

 

[Dr.Ericthedrill]

I have done 1100 KMS on my car.

 

[AyTifosi]

I have a 4S with the standard steep brakes (red calipers). In normal daily driving, the brakes are quite good. Never an issue at all. However, for sure there is a bit of a spongy feel when first depressing the pedal - for track use it would seem softer than ideal. I've noticed this when having to quickly brake hard, like a panic stop. (I have not had the recent 'upgrade' installed.) Consider your frame of reference. Compared to a 911, or on my previous M4, the brakes are definately a little soft.. However, since as others have pointed out, there is a blending of the brake/regen, it would make sense the regen part of the action would not be as 'brisk' as large piston brakes. Unless you're going to be tracking it, I bet you would quickly adjust and enjoy the smooth, quiet and yet wicked fast driving.

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