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Correct - lower seems to have more drag. Normal mode which sits higher seems to coast more freely. Opposite of what I would expect with less air under the car.
Can't say that mimics my experience - again I do need more miles in a diff chassis setting but, imo, the coasting in Low chassis is pretty amazing. We do need a more quantitative approach to get past 'perception' though.
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One of those things that I've wondered is does the Taycan get low enough to ground to start creating ground effects. If it does, would it be better to raise the car just enough to prevent it. Other question is why does range mode also activate the spoiler. Is to disrupt more of the air flow to reduce drag or are they trying to create down force to compensate rear grip loss?

Need someone to just tape a bunch of strings to the back of the car and then have a chase car to observe.
I think Porsche did that already to come up with the different drive modes.

Remember some of the features happen at certain pre-determined speeds (spoiler) but the suspension immediately goes to the lowest setting (determined by aero testing performed to we assume optimise it) as part of Range mode.
 

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Has anyone noticed that the Taycan seems to coast better and longer when set to Normal drive mode? Seems to me when I have my car in Individual mode, the car does not seem to freewheel as far and actually seems to drag and slow down just a bit.

In Normal the Taycan will coast at the same speed for 10-15 seconds when on flat ground and will quickly gain speed on downhill grades.

And yes, before anyone asks, I have confirmed 100% that my individual mode DOES NOT have regeneration turned on nor set to Auto.

Perhaps it’s just me but wondering if others seem to experience the same sensation when driving on the highway?
Yes! This car coasts forever now. It’s a noticeable change since uPdate. Also getting +10% more range in Southwest Florida.
 

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Makes sense if you have the latest software update installed (or, a '22+ model) b/ front motor is decoupled in Normal and Range and not in the other modes.

Otherwise, I see the same behavior in Range and Normal in my car (suspension low in both cases, of course).
 

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Makes sense if you have the latest software update installed (or, a '22+ model) b/ front motor is decoupled in Normal and Range and not in the other modes.

Otherwise, I see the same behavior in Range and Normal in my car (suspension low in both cases, of course).
I don't think that's the case for Normal Drive Mode.

For AWD models both motors are available and if patient and watch your drive animation (Trip) you'll notice the front motor playing a limited role now and then. The big change is that when coasting both motors are de-energised (no power flow whatsoever) whereas prior to uPdate and MY'22 there was a trickle of energy always feeding both axles.

Depending on road / weather conditions the AWD bias when in Normal mode will noticeably change from predominately RWD to more use of FWD - snowy conditions will be telling.

Range mode used to be FWD biased (RWD when descending hills for better recuperation) but now the latest tweak is to rely on RWD (again all visible in the drive animation.

Suspension is lower in Range mode - 'Low' rather than 'Lowered' in Normal mode once you reach the pre-determined speed setting. Again only relevant on cars with air suspension.
 


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Decoupling of the electric motors in different modes is what I was thinking here.

Educate me. How do you find the drive / power animation display in the Taycan AWD models, whereas you can visually see what motors are applying power to the front and rear wheels?
 

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Decoupling of the electric motors in different modes is what I was thinking here.

Educate me. How do you find the drive / power animation display in the Taycan AWD models, whereas you can visually see what motors are applying power to the front and rear wheels?
The AWD display in the Digital Cockpit (main instrument binnacle) disappears after uPdate unfortunately and a new animated drive graphic is provided on the central display un Vehicle...Trip.

This screenshot is for a RWD model but on AWD models the motor and energy will be displayed for the front motor too.

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Pre uPdate you would always see drive to both motors when coasting in the AWD display but no longer due to the performance tweak.
 
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So I watched the power distribution screen, carefully, while doing some highway driving this week. Safe to assume the blue means using electric power, green means re-gen is occurring and no color means de-energized or disconnected during coasting.

On my 2022 Cross Turismo which of course has AWD and the PCM uPdate installed, in both Normal and Individual modes I seem to get the same behavior. When coasting the front motor is de-energized but the rear motor shows green, which would indicate that some degree of re-gen is occurring, even though I have regeneration and auto regeneration switched off in both modes. Interesting enough in Range mode, once over the 60 MPH speed threshold setting, both motors show zero regeneration occurring.

I will continue to monitor. If you have an AWD Taycan with the update, would be interested to hear your findings as well.
 

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So I watched the power distribution screen, carefully, while doing some highway driving this week. Safe to assume the blue means using electric power, green means re-gen is occurring and no color means de-energized or disconnected during coasting.

On my 2022 Cross Turismo which of course has AWD and the PCM uPdate installed, in both Normal and Individual modes I seem to get the same behavior. When coasting the front motor is de-energized but the rear motor shows green, which would indicate that some degree of re-gen is occurring, even though I have regeneration and auto regeneration switched off in both modes. Interesting enough in Range mode, once over the 60 MPH speed threshold setting, both motors show zero regeneration occurring.

I will continue to monitor. If you have an AWD Taycan with the update, would be interested to hear your findings as well.
Behaviour should be the same per model variant and potentially tweaked across variants. E.g. GTS models may show more bias to RWD and so on.

Unfortunately we all have to unlearn how this used to work before uPdate as clearly it is different.

Difficult to be precise - gradients, car settings and so on - to make useful comparisons and you can be sure that in 6 months time a further 'efficiency' tweak will be rolled out changing our understanding again.
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