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It’s clear from the options list there is a key fob for the Taycan but has anyone heard if it’s only a fob for entering and locking the vehicle? No app or other option?
 

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It’s clear from the options list there is a key fob for the Taycan but has anyone heard if it’s only a fob for entering and locking the vehicle? No app or other option?
There's the app Porsche Connect so I assume the Taycan is also included...
Including preheating/cooling, charging schedules, status etc.

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if this thing does not have pasive entry and walk away locking, im out.
 

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or just the final drop of lots of perceived disapointments
 
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It's the option "Porsche Entry & Drive"...but then again, I wouldn't let a fantastic car go if that wasn't on it (which would be wierd on today's standards anyway).
I've heard more excuses but main reason it's the overall price so finding excuses like this is kinda....well...you know.
But sure, if you need a 5 person car, that fifth backseat may be a valuable reason yes...
It's like not buying an F40 cuz it doesn't have cupholders.
Anyway, it's kinda personal so I'm sorry if I offend someone, somehow, somewhere. ;)
I hope you get my drift.
 

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If you ask me I certainly got your drift!:like:
 
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What??
That's your only requirement on looking for a car?
\\\what flex said..

i knew the car would be expensive compared to a model 3 or model s, so i prepped for that, the range was/ is a big bummer.
now, if I have to pull my key or phone out of my pocket it will pretty much such balls. physical keys should only be used for back up and or opening the truck / frunk.

no more pulling out keys in 2020.
 

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\\\what flex said..

i knew the car would be expensive compared to a model 3 or model s, so i prepped for that, the range was/ is a big bummer.
now, if I have to pull my key or phone out of my pocket it will pretty much such balls. physical keys should only be used for back up and or opening the truck / frunk.

no more pulling out keys in 2020.
Hmm Taycan has comfort access.. you can keep your Key in your pocket..
 

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I have not seen Entry and Drive on the standard features or options so far, one reason for asking. I”m in the market for the 4S so waiting....waiting...
 

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I have not seen Entry and Drive on the standard features or options so far, one reason for asking. I”m in the market for the 4S so waiting....waiting...
From Porsche UK configurator
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But not found in the US configurator:(
 

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\\\what flex said..

i knew the car would be expensive compared to a model 3 or model s, so i prepped for that, the range was/ is a big bummer.
now, if I have to pull my key or phone out of my pocket it will pretty much such balls. physical keys should only be used for back up and or opening the truck / frunk.

no more pulling out keys in 2020.
This is the type of thing that is leading to (a) problems with locking/unlocking cars and getting some cars started, and (b) hacking/stealing cars with such lax security.
Tesla has had problems with keyless entry and starting of cars.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/keyless-entry-using-iphone-issues.127386/
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/297733-tesla-model-3-owners-locked-out-of-cars-thanks-to-app-outage
https://www.wired.com/story/hackers-steal-tesla-model-s-seconds-key-fob/

Personally, I prefer normal key fobs in which I have to press a fob button to open and close car doors, and insert to start the car to drive. In my Panamera without keyless entry but with keyless ignition, I've often left the key in the car by mistake in my garage (where I don't lock my cars). Of course, I'd also prefer knobs and buttons for basic climate and audio controls -- not at all happy about that stuff going into the computer screen only (and, no, voice control is not the answer).
 

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This is the type of thing that is leading to (a) problems with locking/unlocking cars and getting some cars started, and (b) hacking/stealing cars with such lax security.
Tesla has had problems with keyless entry and starting of cars.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/keyless-entry-using-iphone-issues.127386/
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/297733-tesla-model-3-owners-locked-out-of-cars-thanks-to-app-outage
https://www.wired.com/story/hackers-steal-tesla-model-s-seconds-key-fob/

Personally, I prefer normal key fobs in which I have to press a fob button to open and close car doors, and insert to start the car to drive. In my Panamera without keyless entry but with keyless ignition, I've often left the key in the car by mistake in my garage (where I don't lock my cars). Of course, I'd also prefer knobs and buttons for basic climate and audio controls -- not at all happy about that stuff going into the computer screen only (and, no, voice control is not the answer).
Fob keys are no different.
With some amplification it can unlock and start a car, no problem.
You have to hide your key fob in a metal bag to prevent this.
But still, it's a remote RF signal and therefore traceable...
 

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Fob keys are no different.
With some amplification it can unlock and start a car, no problem.
You have to hide your key fob in a metal bag to prevent this.
But still, it's a remote RF signal and therefore traceable...
I don’t know about the Porsche fob, but it’s entirely possible to avoid the amplification / relay attacks. You don’t measure signal strength but instead time to compute a secret based on a public key encryption pair shared with the fob.

measuring signal strength is amateur hour. Tesla’s key cards do that because they are cheap and they want to work with a variety of cheap phones interchangeably
 
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