Edinburgh Owners

[IceBite]

Just wondering if any Taycan owners on here live in Edinburgh or near? Ordered my 4S in September so still a long wait for me. Just ordered my home charger as the grants stop in March, any good fast chargers in the city?

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[Chubbs85240]

I’m From Aberdeenshire. Have you checked out Charge Place Scotland? They have around 2000 chargers across Scotland (many offering free electricity!)

Have a look on the app as there is an interactive map.

As I have a free charger in the village just around the corner from my house I don’t, at this stage, see any need for a home charger as will likely do less than 6,000 miles a year.

The cost of install plus electric comes to around £1500-£2000 in year one and then £500 -£1000 (dependant on tariffs) a year thereafter. Whereas for 30 min a week at a public charger I can have it all for free!

Probably won’t last and I’ll relent and put in a home charger!

 

[psglas]

I'd option the 22kW charger if you're travelling around Scotland. I had an early Taycan build and often found I was stuck at 11kW on public chargers. Some councils have lots of 22kw and very few 50kW chargers. I've optioned the 22kW on my CT.

 

[W1NGE]

Just wondering if any Taycan owners on here live in Edinburgh or near? Ordered my 4S in September so still a long wait for me. Just ordered my home charger as the grants stop in March, any good fast chargers in the city?

Edinburgh Porsche has 2 public 350kW chargers, plenty of 50kW - predominantly Chargeplace Scotland, several Shell garages have 50kW units, BP slowly rolling out150kW. Download ZapMap to get a full inventory - the charge map in the Taycan is largely useless to the extent it doesn't find most chargers even when you are parked beside one (seems to be limited to Porsche, Ionity (Perth) and Osprey for whatever reason).

Curious why you are paying for another charger for home use, any particular reason?

 

[IceBite]

I’m From Aberdeenshire. Have you checked out Charge Place Scotland? They have around 2000 chargers across Scotland (many offering free electricity!)

Have a look on the app as there is an interactive map.

As I have a free charger in the village just around the corner from my house I don’t, at this stage, see any need for a home charger as will likely do less than 6,000 miles a year.

The cost of install plus electric comes to around £1500-£2000 in year one and then £500 -£1000 (dependant on tariffs) a year thereafter. Whereas for 30 min a week at a public charger I can have it all for free!

Probably won’t last and I’ll relent and put in a home charger!

Hey, there’s a charger just round the corner from me but from locals I hear it’s always broken. So home charger it is.

I’ve downloaded the app Thanks.

 

[IceBite]

Edinburgh Porsche has 2 public 350kW chargers, plenty of 50kW - predominantly Chargeplace Scotland, several Shell garages have 50kW units, BP slowly rolling out150kW. Download ZapMap to get a full inventory - the charge map in the Taycan is largely useless to the extent it doesn't find most chargers even when you are parked beside one (seems to be limited to Porsche, Ionity (Perth) and Osprey for whatever reason).

Curious why you are paying for another charger for home use, any particular reason?

Ah thanks good to know. Don’t have a charger at home so this is my first one.

 

[W1NGE]

I’m From Aberdeenshire. Have you checked out Charge Place Scotland? They have around 2000 chargers across Scotland (many offering free electricity!)

Have a look on the app as there is an interactive map.

As I have a free charger in the village just around the corner from my house I don’t, at this stage, see any need for a home charger as will likely do less than 6,000 miles a year.

The cost of install plus electric comes to around £1500-£2000 in year one and then £500 -£1000 (dependant on tariffs) a year thereafter. Whereas for 30 min a week at a public charger I can have it all for free!

Probably won’t last and I’ll relent and put in a home charger!

Seems on the costly side. I had my PMCC installed with a dedicated 32A supply in Aberdeen by Andersen's for £550 (no grant). Electric was free (8000 miles) in my first year which has sadly just come to an end. Home charging is the way forward (very cheap) particularly as more and more people are making the switch and public chargers getting busier.

 

[W1NGE]

Ah thanks good to know. Don’t have a charger at home so this is my first one.

You get a charger with the car - Porsche Mobile Charger Plus for free - no real need to source another.

 

[Boss Hogg]

There are some new and fast 150kW BP chargers at Harthill. I'd second going for the 22kW option, expensive but halves the charging time in remote locations where 22kW system are common.

 

[Chubbs85240]

Seems on the costly side. I had my PMCC installed with a dedicated 32A supply in Aberdeen by Andersen's for £550 (no grant). Electric was free (8000 miles) in my first year which has sadly just come to an end. Home charging is the way forward (very cheap) particularly as more and more people are making the switch and public chargers getting busier.

I hadn’t realised I get the charger hardwarr with the car (I think that’s what you are saying), so cost was for hardware + install.

 

[psglas]

The original cars had the PMCC as the standard mobile charger which can be connect at 32A so 7kW which is the same as a single phase home charger. There are two charging options with the latest cars. I've gone for the basic charger not the PMCC on my CT as I have a home charger. Not sure if thats just 16A or 32A. You really need 32A for a full overnight charge.

 

[W1NGE]

I hadn’t realised I get the charger hardwarr with the car (I think that’s what you are saying), so cost was for hardware + install.

Yep, check the standard options on the configurator and it should tell you that you will get the Porsche Mobile Charger Plus (PMC+ - 9.6kW max) which is ideal for overnight home charging at 7.4kW on single phase 32A domestic supply. If you are fortunate enough or have plans for 3 phase electrical supply then you could consider a) paying extra for the Porsche Mobile Charger Connect (PMCC) which will support up to 22kW but note that the car’s standard AC charger is 11kW (still requires 3 phase to max it out) but can be upgraded to 22kW (at a huge cost) to take full advantage. Other non-Porsche branded EVSEs may be cheaper than the PMCC (which doesn’t attract the Government grant)

In the main, single phase 7.4kW overnight charging during off peak hours is perfect for battery top ups from around 30% to 85% and therefore no need to spend more on additional upgrades / hardware unless you particularly want to.

The 22kW AC option for the car could be useful in remote areas where 50kW DC units are thin on the ground. Check your local environment and where you are most likely to venture to see if there is a case for the upgrade or not. Most folk don’t as 50kW DC is generally plentiful and higher rated units (150kW+) are springing up everywhere.

Ensure to tick the 150kW DC 400v Booster option - Tesla Supercharger network is opening up to all and sundry but is limited to 120kW DC 400v and therefore the option is needed to max out. Other non-Tesla 400v ultra fast chargers are out there too and so for the small option cost it’s better to have than not.

Some folk (like me) got lucky last year and received the PMCC free of charge as there were supply issues with the PMC+. Apart from higher throughputs (if you can leverage) it has a touch interface and a few non-essential features. The control and configuration of the charging process is controlled by the car - via timers and profiles (location sensitive) - so no need to fret on features one EVSE offers over the other as you’ll likely only use the Porsche Connect App or My Porsche or the car’s PCM to manage and monitor your charging needs.

 

[Chubbs85240]

Yep, check the standard options on the configurator and it should tell you that you will get the Porsche Mobile Charger Plus (PMC+ - 9.6kW max) which is ideal for overnight home charging at 7.4kW on single phase 32A domestic supply. If you are fortunate enough or have plans for 3 phase electrical supply then you could consider a) paying extra for the Porsche Mobile Charger Connect (PMCC) which will support up to 22kW but note that the car’s standard AC charger is 11kW (still requires 3 phase to max it out) but can be upgraded to 22kW (at a huge cost) to take full advantage. Other non-Porsche branded EVSEs may be cheaper than the PMCC (which doesn’t attract the Government grant)

In the main, single phase 7.4kW overnight charging during off peak hours is perfect for battery top ups from around 30% to 85% and therefore no need to spend more on additional upgrades / hardware unless you particularly want to.

The 22kW AC option for the car could be useful in remote areas where 50kW DC units are thin on the ground. Check your local environment and where you are most likely to venture to see if there is a case for the upgrade or not. Most folk don’t as 50kW DC is generally plentiful and higher rated units (150kW+) are springing up everywhere.

Ensure to tick the 150kW DC 400v Booster option - Tesla Supercharger network is opening up to all and sundry but is limited to 120kW DC 400v and therefore the option is needed to max out. Other non-Tesla 400v ultra fast chargers are out there too and so for the small option cost it’s better to have than not.

Some folk (like me) got lucky last year and received the PMCC free of charge as there were supply issues with the PMC+. Apart from higher throughputs (if you can leverage) it has a touch interface and a few non-essential features. The control and configuration of the charging process is controlled by the car - via timers and profiles (location sensitive) - so no need to fret on features one EVSE offers over the other as you’ll likely only use the Porsche Connect App or My Porsche or the car’s PCM to manage and monitor your charging needs.

So I have decided to get a home install, my free local charger is now not free (think its maybe a year old and now the council can charge for it) so might as well charge at home!

Trying to research the PMC+, do you know if I am right in saying that all I need is a Single phase socket installed (no need for specialist EV electrician etc) and then I am good to go with the potential of 7.4KW?

I was speaking to a sparky and he wasn't sure he could do this, as he wasn't EV trained, and was worried about earthing etc, but I read elsewhere that the cars charger is actually built into the car and this is just an electricity source and could plug into a normal single phase socket, like plugging in an industrial oven etc.

 

[W1NGE]

So I have decided to get a home install, my free local charger is now not free (think its maybe a year old and now the council can charge for it) so might as well charge at home!

Trying to research the PMC+, do you know if I am right in saying that all I need is a Single phase socket installed (no need for specialist EV electrician etc) and then I am good to go with the potential of 7.4KW?

I was speaking to a sparky and he wasn't sure he could do this, as he wasn't EV trained, and was worried about earthing etc, but I read elsewhere that the cars charger is actually built into the car and this is just an electricity source and could plug into a normal single phase socket, like plugging in an industrial oven etc.

PMC+ must be installed on a properly earthed single phase supply with a dedicated 32A fuse from your main fuse box - you must use any qualified electrician (EV specialist is not required) to do this for you. This will give you 7.4kW and ideal for overnight charging at home.

You can only use the 3 pin 13A plug if you use this supply cable instead of the 32A supply cable with the 32A supply connector. PMC+ is supplied with both supply cables.

The 3 pin plug should only be used as a measure of last resort or if going off grid for the weekend but have access to a 13A plug. Charging speeds will be around 0.1 mile per minute max - really slow.

You are correct that the PMC+ is not an actual charger (both AC and DC chargers are in the car) and is actually called Electrical Vehicle Supply Equipment (EVSE).

 

[Chubbs85240]

PMC+ must be installed on a properly earthed single phase supply with a dedicated 32A fuse from your main fuse box - you must use any qualified electrician (EV specialist is not required) to do this for you. This will give you 7.4kW and ideal for overnight charging at home.

You can only use the 3 pin 13A plug if you use this supply cable instead of the 32A supply cable with the 32A supply connector. PMC+ is supplied with both supply cables.

The 3 pin plug should only be used as a measure of last resort or if going off grid for the weekend but have access to a 13A plug. Charging speeds will be around 0.1 mile per minute max - really slow.

You are correct that the PMC+ is not an actual charger (both AC and DC chargers are in the car) and is actually called Electrical Vehicle Supply Equipment (EVSE).

Grand, that’s what I thought ??

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