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I do like acoustic glass which is effective in my opinion,
The big problem is tire noise.....I hope that tire companies can develop quieter tires for EV's.
Regarding options #2,#3....it seems you would be paying more, getting a newer/updated model, with fewer miles on the odometer, and less options.
I didn't realize one could do so well with mortgage investments...10.5% is impressive.
Frugal is my mantra too....with exceptions, namely Porsche.
Would you weigh the acoustic glass above getting the 3 performance options (PDCC, PTV+, RAS in a car)?
I'm struggling with which direction to go here. My 2nd choice would be the 2023 GTS, but I'd only get PTV+ and it's colour is that Gentian Blue so not my fav.
My close 3rd choice would be the 2024 4S with 9,829 km on it as it gets me the leather interior and is in one of my fav colours (Volcanic Grey), but I wouldn't have any performance options on it and it also doesn't even have Power Steering Plus.

Not bad return, and it seems to be fairly stable over past 12 years of investing in mortgages. It's all interest income so I get taxed heavily unfortunately.
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I would take the performance package over acoustic glass.
The nice thing about ordering a new Taycn is that you can spec it to your preferences.
That's what I did when I ordered my 2020 4S, and tailored the spec to just what I wanted.
I then leased it for 3 years/36k miles and bought it out at the end of the lease.
While the a la carte approach can be expensive, it really allows you to get just what you want/like....but maybe not need.
 
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I would take the performance package over acoustic glass.
The nice thing about ordering a new Taycn is that you can spec it to your preferences.
That's what I did when I ordered my 2020 4S, and tailored the spec to just what I wanted.
I then leased it for 3 years/36k miles and bought it out at the end of the lease.
While the a la carte approach can be expensive, it really allows you to get just what you want/like....but maybe not need.
I've considered new - but the lease payments would be $3700/mo CAD tax in and while I can afford it, it seems excessive.
My wife's MB GLC 300 is $1314/mo - I just can't justify that level of expenditure.

The one thing that may convince me as new is the newer battery tech and the hope that in 3-5 years it may still hold it's own on range amongst newer EVs coming out then. I'd probably keep it for same as my last 2 cars (8-10 years) anyways, but still would hate to be driving around a car that gets very little range compared to what I could buy for less at that time. But I guess we don't know for sure.

In a similar parallel, when I consider purchasing a Model S or Plaid, I only really consider buying new as buying a used one of those feels like they would be more inferior in quality than a used Taycan - I don't know exactly why - I think it's partly because of the Tesla inferior build quality to start with that makes me think it would age even faster as a used vehicle vs. a Porsche.
 

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One thing to consider is that, historically, EV batteries have held up for much longer than anticipated. Range decline tends to level out as the battery ages.
Many early EV's are still on the road.
It bodes well for aging Taycans.....8-12 years seems a realistic period of ownership.

Regarding Teslas, my neighbor has one that I drive when he has asked me to park it in the airport for him to pickup on his return from trips. For my money, it's just an appliance like a Frigidaire.
He agrees with me and does not plan to buy another.
 

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Does anyone here have the real user-provided range values (alongside HP & torque) for each of the following:

2022 - 2024 Taycan 4S (with PB+)
2022-2024 Taycan GTS (with PB+)
2025 Taycan 4S (with PB+)
2025 Taycan GTS (with PB+)
newest Tesla Model S
newest Tesla Model S Plaid
2024 Audi e-tron GT

I'm having a real hard time finding actual range numbers reported by users for average driving in normal weather.
I would say Porsche range is very close to EPA estimates. Most owners actually beat the estimates. Porsche has the lowest deviation from estimate in the industry.

Tesla is the worst, IMO illegally deceptive. All cars in their lineup are a 10%-15% less than their estimate. Teslas are simply just a 250- 300 mile (or less) car, doesn't even matter what the EPA quote is. They get away with it bc Elon has the government in his pocket and Tesla owners decide being lied to is acceptable.

https://insideevs.com/reviews/443791/ev-range-test-results/


https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/evs-with-the-best-real-world-range/


Also note since you're considering a J1.1, all 2020-2021 cars received a software upgrade in 2023, matching ranges of the 2023-24 cars. I believe the first vehicle to deliver from the factory with the new software was the 2022 GTS. I took this summary screenshot before they changed the configurator.

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