Where is it listed as 87kWh usable? The german Porsche website still shows 83.7kWh usable capacity for the performance plus battery.Note that the Taycan battery is now listed as 87 kwh usable, up from 83.7.
I believe that is in the video above.Where is it listed as 87kWh usable? The german Porsche website still shows 83.7kWh usable capacity for the performance plus battery.
Ron, for a non-engineer like me, can you analyze and interpret this chart? From my layman's perpsective, it looks like the Tesla, as expected, kicked the Taycan's butt. However, it didn't do as well as the EPA said it would and the Taycan did better than the EPA rating (consistent with many reports on TacyanForum). I don't know what WLTP means.I loved the Heart Rate shown near the end. He is such a funny guy.
Just reading English translated subtitles is a painful process. As sadly my German is similar to the Taycan battery as he pulls into the Ionity Charger, 0%.
Here is a nice summary chart from 21:55:
I will take a shot:Ron, for a non-engineer like me, can you analyze and interpret this chart? From my layman's perpsective, it looks like the Tesla, as expected, kicked the Taycan's butt. However, it didn't do as well as the EPA said it would and the Taycan did better than the EPA rating (consistent with many reports on TacyanForum). I don't know what WLTP means.
This is actually quite helpful. Thanks!!!All of this proves not much of anything, other than:
- For those of us prospective Taycan owners, perhaps our range experience will be much closer to the Tesla than we expected.
- The Taycan did not get its "butt kicked" in quite the way that you may have expected. This is more like a two touchdown underdog (-14 points) losing by a mere field goal (-3 points).
Well, that was my attempt.
Sorry for the delay in my analysis @BayAreaKen. Lots of other good feedback too. But here is my take.Ron, for a non-engineer like me, can you analyze and interpret this chart? From my layman's perpsective, it looks like the Tesla, as expected, kicked the Taycan's butt. However, it didn't do as well as the EPA said it would and the Taycan did better than the EPA rating (consistent with many reports on TacyanForum). I don't know what WLTP means.
Anyway, your thoughts and expertise is appreciated.
Perhaps it was by design by Porsche. The way the EPA tests work, there is a laboratory test protocol that the EPA specifies. It specifies the use of a dynamometer, speeds, etc. The automakers conduct the testing themselves, and submit their results to the EPA according to the test protocol. The automakers certify that they have followed the protocol and make very detailed reports on their tests. There is some degree of play in the protocol, and my suspicion is that Porsche, unlike most manufacturers, ran the test quite conservatively. This is a company that just paid the largest fine in EPA history for misrepresenting their diesel emissions test results to them, so it makes some sense.I think the number the EPA stated backfired at them cuz more and more it shows it's not that far away from Tesla.
I've heard there are three methodes of the EPA.Perhaps it was by design by Porsche. The way the EPA tests work, there is a laboratory test protocol that the EPA specifies. It specifies the use of a dynamometer, speeds, etc. The automakers conduct the testing themselves, and submit their results to the EPA according to the test protocol. The automakers certify that they have followed the protocol and make very detailed reports on their tests. There is some degree of play in the protocol, and my suspicion is that Porsche, unlike most manufacturers, ran the test quite conservatively. This is a company that just paid the largest fine in EPA history for misrepresenting their diesel emissions test results to them, so it makes some sense.
Curious... is that a liability issue? What if Tesla significantly overstates range?1. Data provided by the manufacturer.
Tesla is #1.