"[NA] Porsche owners can now access the Tesla Supercharger network" - Porsche Newsroom

[Flying ace]

Why is the Porsche adapter complimentary for some?

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[whitex]

Why is the Porsche adapter complimentary for some?

All model year 2025 Macan EV and J1.2 Taycan, since they came after the announcement of switching NACS but didn't come with native NACS ports.

 

[whitex]

Fyi, I just successfully charged at a V4 Tesla supercharger using both A2Z and Lectron adapters.

Only hit 107kW, but battery was over 60% and 83F.

 

[FlyingPoint]

All model year 2025 Macan EV and J1.2 Taycan, since they came after the announcement of switching NACS but didn't come with native NACS ports.

There must be another metric that PAG is considering. I have a MY24 4S and was offered a complimentary adapter. Perhaps it has something to do with buying history of an individual, in addition all MY25's and Macan.

 

[daveo4EV]

There must be another metric that PAG is considering. I have a MY24 4S and was offered a complimentary adapter. Perhaps it has something to do with buying history of an individual, in addition all MY25's and Macan.

or sloppy'ness - never attribute to malice or "plan" what can be explained by incompetence.

frankly they should just give _ALL_ existing EV owner's an adapter and be done with it…

but maybe because some Taycan owners failed to option the 400V/150 kW option - it's less interesting if you're limited to 50 kW's max charge speed.

 

[FlyingPoint]

or sloppy'ness - never attribute to malice or "plan" what can be explained by incompetence.

frankly they should just give _ALL_ existing EV owner's an adapter and be done with it…

but maybe because some Taycan owners failed to option the 400V/150 kW option - it's less interesting if you're limited to 50 kW's max charge speed.

Certainly a possibility that is a strong possibility. Without the 400V/150 kW option, it is not only less interesting but could be perceived as a negative by those owner's. I suspect that many Taycan owners in the early days didn't value future access to the Tesla network, hence it wasn't spec'd.

I have mixed emotions about access. I am not happy having to wait to charge my Tesla because a non Tesla is blocking two stalls. I know in time the Tesla buildouts will have longer cable's but now they are few and far.

 

[mlherman]

FWIW, I have a MY23 RWD without the 150kw charger option. I bought the Lectron adapter and successfully tested it at a SC site last night (Atlanta area). It was easy to use except for the short cable/parking issue. Charging at only ~49 kW is disappointing, of course, but I am still happy to have the NACS adapter in case I am ever stuck without access to a higher voltage DC charger. It's good for a little extra piece of mind on road trips.

 

[daveo4EV]

FWIW, I have a MY23 RWD without the 150kw charger option. I bought the Lectron adapter and successfully tested it at a SC site last night (Atlanta area). It was easy to use except for the short cable/parking issue. Charging at only ~49 kW is disappointing, of course, but I am still happy to have the NACS adapter in case I am ever stuck without access to a higher voltage DC charger. It's good for a little extra piece of mind on road trips.

50 kW is still 5x faster than 9.6 kW's charging - and if you're away from home "slow chargers" are normally 6 kW's or slow - so a 50 kW charge rate is 10x faster…

even at 50 kW's max the Taycan should onlly take 90'ish minutes to fully charge - so while not a 22 minute 'fast stop' - 90 minutes is way way way better than 10 hours from an even slower charger…

also if you have access to a 50 kW supercharger - you may only need 10-30 minutes charge to get enough range to migrate to a faster 800V charger now that you have some range…

 

[PinkPorschePrincess]

I've been following this thread, but had no luck getting one. Porsche just sent me a message to get it for free. I was surprised. Is it 2024 and newer?

 

[Freeewilly]

How long does it take to charge from 20% to 80% at ~50 kW?

 

[trycan]

How long does it take to charge from 20% to 80% at ~50 kW?

Depends on which battery you have. I would think about 75 minutes for the big battery.

 

[mlherman]

How long does it take to charge from 20% to 80% at ~50 kW?

Should be like 70-80 minutes, I think. During my test yesterday, I added about 18 kWh in 22 minutes (took it from about 50% to around 70%, stopping well before any 80% slowdown). You can extrapolate that rate for yourself, based on your battery size.

 

[whitex]

frankly they should just give _ALL_ existing EV owner's an adapter and be done with it…

Or maybe they consider $18M (100k cars * $180) not an insignificant line item on their accounting sheets? They wouldn't even give me a new NEMA 14-50 cable (or upgrade the software) for my PMCC which I bought aftermarket. They did for the PMC+ which came with my car. I was told the recall for PMCC would be tied to a VIN and not the EVSE itself. I didn't bother investigating what it would cost to pay them since I only bought it for my own curiosity experiments, not to actually use to charge any cars.

That said, I don't feel they owe me one for my 2023 Turbo CT. There was no talk about NACS compatibility when I purchased my Taycan, so in my mind I got what I agreed to and paid for. I give Porsche credit for extending the NACS compatibility to the J1.1 cars for free, and not jacking up the price on the adapter.

 

[whitex]

but maybe because some Taycan owners failed to option the 400V/150 kW option - it's less interesting if you're limited to 50 kW's max charge speed.

IMHO for a Taycan, a working 350kW CCS will always be a better DC charging choice, whether you have the 400V/150kW booster or not. Tesla SC will always be the fallback choice (until they deploy 800V) for situations where the CCS is unavailable, and in that case, even 50kW is "interesting" to the driver. I do recall having to make a trip long time ago (in a Tesla, not Taycan), with the only thing that made it possible being a 50kW ChaDeMo charger, for which I had to get an adapter, but was glad I had it. Only ever used it once, on that trip. Some Taycan owners without the 150kW booster may end up with similar stories with their NACS adapter.

 

[whitex]

I have mixed emotions about access. I am not happy having to wait to charge my Tesla because a non Tesla is blocking two stalls. I know in time the Tesla buildouts will have longer cable's but now they are few and far.

No different than watching a Tesla charging at EA on one of only 4 working stations while CCS cars wait in line, while there is 20 SC pedestals, mostly empty, just across the parking lot. I encountered this scenario a couple of times. The reason why the Teslas were charging at EA was because it was cheaper (I asked). Today it evens out, CCS drivers can charge at SC and Tesla drivers can charge at CCS - first come fist serve.

Side note, with more than one Taycan at an SC, each doesn't have to use two spots if they charge in adjacent stalls. Only one slot would be wasted, none if it's at the far right. So all we need is more Taycans at superchargers for more optimal stall utilization.

Dang, now I'm thinking we need a group picture of a bunch of Taycans all supercharging at the same time, all parked askew, end-to-end, no stall wasted.

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