150kW on-board DC-DC converter - do I need to order this in UK?

[smartymarti]

How much is

PMCC will handle 22kW and doesn't cost anywhere near £2K.

a new pmcc, I’ve never seen a second hand one and I’m lucky enough to have 3phase

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[Scandinavian]

I think we need to get back on to the topic!

From page 4 where I rejoined the discussion all is about the 22 kW option????

Topic was 150 kW!! Option.

 

[Browning]

Shell now putting 22kw AC chargers at supermarkets around the UK - inc. Waitrose. Don't get why you wouldn't want to charge twice as fast.

Also Starbucks and McDonalds and some hotels who don't have enough supply for above 22kw so I agree best to tick the box because it will be needed personnel choice /opinion

 

[Ross]

PMCC will handle 22kW and doesn't cost anywhere near £2K.

Fair enough!
How much is one?
It was nearly £2k quote for me with rewire and stuff as already had the grant for home address for a free 7kw charger.
Still a waste of time whatever the cost and don’t forget the bonus feature that it can break your car!

 

[Fish Fingers]

I think we need to get back on to the topic!

From page 4 where I rejoined the discussion all is about the 22 kW option????

Topic was 150 kW!! Option.

Good try.

 

[daveo4EV]

I think we need to get back on to the topic!

From page 4 where I rejoined the discussion all is about the 22 kW option????

Topic was 150 kW!! Option.

yes - with Tesla Superchargers rolling out to non-Tesla's in Europe (not yet NA because of physical plug issues) - I believe this option is now mostly a no-brainer - superchargers are 400V 72/150/250 kW high-stall count chargers who's reliability currently eclipses most other networks - the 150 kW option will allow you to charge faster and have a shorter charging stop - regardless of how limited the current roll out is, it's not going to stay that way - and more and more and more Tesla Superchargers will be made available to the non-Tesla community

seems a reasonable option (low cost by porsche standards) for high-speed access to such a well regarded and extensive EV charging network.

 

[daveo4EV]

also you can embarass Tesla owners with your car's vastly superior charging curve - the Taycan "holds" at/near 150 kW charging rate for far far longer and deeper into the SOC battery range than Tesla's - Tesla's charge fast - but they quickly "peak" and then taper - often times spending most of their time below 100 kW - my Taycan vs. any of my 7 Tesla's spends way way way more time sucking down electrons at >120 kW charging rates - not really tapering until like 60 or 70% SOC - and even then not dropping below 100 kW until the early 80%'s - this charging curve is markedly faster than Tesla's and leads to meaningful reduction in time spent at the charging stalls vs. Tesla's…

it's not a good look for the "brand" for you to tottle along at 50 kW next to a Model 3 that costs 1/3rd the price - and it will cause you to occupy the charging stall for way longer than is reasonable…if the location is busy…

50 kW is fast - but still too long to gracefully idle while you wait to reach 80 or 90%…

 

[W1NGE]

How much is

a new pmcc, I’ve never seen a second hand one and I’m lucky enough to have 3phase

Used to be £760 when ordered with the car and around £1200 if not.

 

[simcity]

Bash in the UK. Just finalising my 4S order via Salary Sacrifice scheme.

Query:
Haven't been able to fathom out whether to order the 150kW on-board DC-DC converter or give the £294 option a miss...

- Do I need to order this in the UK? Is it actually useful in the context of UK charging infrastructure?
- Are there many chargers in the UK that only supply 400V (where I presume this would be useful or maybe not!)
- Will this £294 worth of add-on be useful when Tesla superchargers become available in the UK, or will the 4S still not charge at full capacity on Tesla super chargers?

Thanks.

I've included this as a 'cover all bases' charging option on my order. In my experience 400V DC charging stations are far more prevalent in the UK currently than 800V (especially if you consider that T Superchargers will inevitably move from trial to full scale operation across all their 120+ sites). Makes little sense to me to hobble yourself to a 50 kW charge rate in these situations....

 

[W1NGE]

I've included this as a 'cover all bases' charging option on my order. In my experience 400V DC charging stations are far more prevalent in the UK currently than 800V (especially if you consider that T Superchargers will inevitably move from trial to full scale operation across all their 120+ sites). Makes little sense to me to hobble yourself to a 50 kW charge rate in these situations....

...until you realise the cables at Tesla are too short.

 

[simcity]

...until you realise the cables at Tesla are too short.

Depends on the tombstone location. Rear of bay are too short. Side of bay are OK - better if there was a CCS port in both charge ports of the car though.....

 

[W1NGE]

Depends on the tombstone location. Rear of bay are too short. Side of bay are OK - better if there was a CCS port in both charge ports of the car though.....

Other non Tesla charging locations are available...

 

[tomw00]

I've included this as a 'cover all bases' charging option on my order. In my experience 400V DC charging stations are far more prevalent in the UK currently than 800V (especially if you consider that T Superchargers will inevitably move from trial to full scale operation across all their 120+ sites). Makes little sense to me to hobble yourself to a 50 kW charge rate in these situations....

I am cover all your bases person too and it has just paid off.
I have driven from the UK to Andalucia in southern Spain. I needed to use a Tesla charger in France and the hotel we are currently staying only has a three phase supply and we are miles from anywhere. The next hotel has 22kW too. ps the Taycan is a great GT car

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