Might have made a mistake!

[F1Ruaraidh]

Ahahaha, I just don’t know … by the incessant and hysterical complaints going on here, one might think that it’s the “wives” doing exactly what they do best … finding something to complain and panic about, no matter what, and with little regard for “solutions” …

Don't know about you guys but my wife and I swap driver at every charging stop. Means you never drive much more than 2-2.5 hours at a time. Keeps tempers happy!

On the 14hr West Mids to Berlin in a day trip, that works a treat.

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[Tooney]

I only read the post because you wrote "May of made a mistake" rather than "may have made a mistake" and wondered if English was your first language

Now I can't unsee it - "May of made a mistake" - every time I open the forum.

 

[f1eng]

Now I can't unsee it - "May of made a mistake" - every time I open the forum.

One good troll deserves another.

 

[senwar]

I guess I’m looking at any excuse to bin the Taycan off but listening to some great comments i need to give it a bit of time.

You're never going to come round to it - your mind is already made up - comments won't change that....

For the record, I absolutely adore mine, best thing I've ever had but have been out looking at cars this afternoon for some stupid reason

 

[Grim]

Funny, an M3 only has a range of 340 miles at highway speeds …

 

[FredC057]

Next week is the start of the French holidays as well.
You better plan other stops than those IONITY for the just in case.
It is going to be war this year at those stations direction the alps.
It was already problematic during the new year and there were long queues.
I’ll be traveling the night and towards Switzerland to try to avoid the most.
If you are traveling the Saturday morning, just add an hour to the ABRP stops.

I didn’t have the same speech until last year but I’ve had so many problems with the car and seeing friends that have to travel outside at the same time as everyone being blocked or because they didn’t plan it in advance, they had to go out of the highway to find a slow charger, had to wait because some people are charging slowly until 100%…. I start to understand the ones that are buying a plug in hybrid for tax reasons.
Our cars can charge in 15-20 min max but if all others are taking 30 min minimum that you’ll have to wait.
For the last 4 years that I’m driving electric cars on that road, the number of charging stations have multiplied but the number of electric cars as well.
Stations like Châtel still have only 2 places to charge that are full or not working, no plan to add other ones and it’s nearly impossible to add some in the underground garages because of the regulations.

I have already said it that this year the February ski season will see a lot of queues and we’ll have journalists showing how it is impossible to travel with an EV.

 

[m32taycanmiatake]

Next week is the start of the French holidays as well.
You better plan other stops than those IONITY for the just in case.
It is going to be war this year at those stations direction the alps.
It was already problematic during the new year and there were long queues.
I’ll be traveling the night and towards Switzerland to try to avoid the most.
If you are traveling the Saturday morning, just add an hour to the ABRP stops.

I didn’t have the same speech until last year but I’ve had so many problems with the car and seeing friends that have to travel outside at the same time as everyone being blocked or because they didn’t plan it in advance, they had to go out of the highway to find a slow charger, had to wait because some people are charging slowly until 100%…. I start to understand the ones that are buying a plug in hybrid for tax reasons.
Our cars can charge in 15-20 min max but if all others are taking 30 min minimum that you’ll have to wait.
For the last 4 years that I’m driving electric cars on that road, the number of charging stations have multiplied but the number of electric cars as well.
Stations like Châtel still have only 2 places to charge that are full or not working, no plan to add other ones and it’s nearly impossible to add some in the underground garages because of the regulations.

I have already said it that this year the February ski season will see a lot of queues and we’ll have journalists showing how it is impossible to travel with an EV.

tanks for this..

I’m travelling Friday night from UK and plan to stay in Reims Friday night and then head to Avoriaz Saturday morning..

I will have 100% when I leave the UK and have one scheduled stop in France and then I should be able to top up to 100% in Reims at midnight..

the next leg might be more challenging

 

[McgR]

Next week is the start of the French holidays as well.
You better plan other stops than those IONITY for the just in case.
It is going to be war this year at those stations direction the alps.
It was already problematic during the new year and there were long queues.
I’ll be traveling the night and towards Switzerland to try to avoid the most.
If you are traveling the Saturday morning, just add an hour to the ABRP stops.

I didn’t have the same speech until last year but I’ve had so many problems with the car and seeing friends that have to travel outside at the same time as everyone being blocked or because they didn’t plan it in advance, they had to go out of the highway to find a slow charger, had to wait because some people are charging slowly until 100%…. I start to understand the ones that are buying a plug in hybrid for tax reasons.
Our cars can charge in 15-20 min max but if all others are taking 30 min minimum that you’ll have to wait.
For the last 4 years that I’m driving electric cars on that road, the number of charging stations have multiplied but the number of electric cars as well.
Stations like Châtel still have only 2 places to charge that are full or not working, no plan to add other ones and it’s nearly impossible to add some in the underground garages because of the regulations.

I have already said it that this year the February ski season will see a lot of queues and we’ll have journalists showing how it is impossible to travel with an EV.

I have been avoiding to travel on saturdays during the holidays for this. Black saturdays around lunch time must be a disaster.

I did found a solution in the Porsche charging lounge because it is only for Porsche and really big IONITY stations with more than 20 charters or even Tesla with more than 40. But both of them are not available in France I think. Local charging in French ski stations is not optimal either. The app showed 40 22 kw chargers in Val d isere and in Tignes but they were not functional.

 

[Longy_UK]

Horses for courses. If you drive to Europe often id suggest an EV isnt the one. Not because of infrastructure, but because you want to do 400mile chunks not 200 (fully loaded)...

I went from an RS6 C8 to a ST GTS and I honestly don't miss it. I'm saving circa £400 - £500 a month on fuel alone and that doesn't take tax, insurance etc into question.

If were off on a long trip with the dog... We take the range rover...

 

[Poshfpg]

tanks for this..

I’m travelling Friday night from UK and plan to stay in Reims Friday night and then head to Avoriaz Saturday morning..

I will have 100% when I leave the UK and have one scheduled stop in France and then I should be able to top up to 100% in Reims at midnight..

the next leg might be more challenging

I've said it elsewhere but the further you can get Friday night the better, if Reims could become Troyes or closer to Dijon you'll save several hours on Saturday. One trick is to drive solo on Friday (day) and have partner and kids fly to GVA after school and pick them up as you drive past. Then stay somewhere near Portes du Soleil. That advice stands for anyone driving any car, gets you an extra day on the slopes too.

You seem to have the same number of charges I do in France in the 'old' 4S CT so not sure if that's the roofbox but would expect one less in reality and the return trip will be much easier as you go downhill. You're probably only 2 charges back to Calais.

In early January I drove back on a Sunday and the traffic was still bad with horrendous queues at petrol pumps as well as chargers, in one case backed out onto the A6 just north of Lyon. The PCM was showing that everywhere on auroroute was 1/6 or 0/6, meaning there was obviously a queue, and took me off the motorway by 1km to an empty set of 225kw chargers next to a boulangerie just up the road even though it was set to 270kw+ only. Avoiding IONITY is probably a good idea on a Saturday as there are often only 6 to 8 of them and everyone tries to use them. You will then discover 12-16 300kw chargers at other service stations with loads free.

Trust the PCM would be my advice even if the routing seems to be off motorway but don't trust it blindly, check what it suggests in route overview when you're at c.40%.

Hope it goes well.

 

[MrB]

Thanks for all your comments, I guess 270 miles is ok as I charge at home 99% of the time but we do load the car for family ski and boat holidays throughout the year and having to plan the trip could be just a ballache with 3 kids and a wife on board! Will be interested to see how this 2000 mile trip plays out, just bought 20” wheels with snow tyres, excited about hitting the snow! I guess being a petrol head and driving the Taycan for a 3 months has left me wanting, and any excuse to swap it out..

I’m fortunate enough to have some petrol toys so roll on the spring!

Thanks

I’ve pretty much just done this very trip from Norwich to Ampuis and back via Lille in a 2021 4S CT on 21” CT wheels with 3 up and the thick end of 60 bottles of wine as well on the way back.

My average range on a full charge at 60k miles is about 180 miles in the winter temperatures. Even less after a few days of running at autoroute speeds. I say this only because it didn’t matter at all. Just like your map above, I bounced from one Ionity charger to another and routinely saw 250kw charge speeds. It really just worked even with a much lower max range on a full charge than you’re showing.

FWIW the best range guess I ever saw on this car was 250 miles leaving Ionity Baldock on a hot summer’s day. Never came close again!

 

[Murph7355]

One other consideration... Which hotel are you staying at? And do they have chargers you can book?

If you're getting 6-7hrs shut eye you can get nearly full on a 7kw charger...

 

[FredC057]

The problem won't be at the hotel, it will be the next day in the morning.
From the screenshot, there is a stop at Ionity Langres with only 6 stations and everybody coming from UK, Belgium and Netherlands wanted to also charge there.
And afterwards, I assume it's the Ionity Valleiry with only 4 stations that is quite busy as well.

BTW, there is no chance for me in my CT4S from 2022 to reach Valleiry from Langres which is 294 km/ 182 Miles unless I charge to 100 % and drive slow.

 

[F1Ruaraidh]

Next week is the start of the French holidays as well.
You better plan other stops than those IONITY for the just in case.
It is going to be war this year at those stations direction the alps.
It was already problematic during the new year and there were long queues.
I’ll be traveling the night and towards Switzerland to try to avoid the most.
If you are traveling the Saturday morning, just add an hour to the ABRP stops.

I didn’t have the same speech until last year but I’ve had so many problems with the car and seeing friends that have to travel outside at the same time as everyone being blocked or because they didn’t plan it in advance, they had to go out of the highway to find a slow charger, had to wait because some people are charging slowly until 100%…. I start to understand the ones that are buying a plug in hybrid for tax reasons.
Our cars can charge in 15-20 min max but if all others are taking 30 min minimum that you’ll have to wait.
For the last 4 years that I’m driving electric cars on that road, the number of charging stations have multiplied but the number of electric cars as well.
Stations like Châtel still have only 2 places to charge that are full or not working, no plan to add other ones and it’s nearly impossible to add some in the underground garages because of the regulations.

I have already said it that this year the February ski season will see a lot of queues and we’ll have journalists showing how it is impossible to travel with an EV.

Best to use Tesla superchargers and travel out of hours. When are the French holidays anyway??

 

[FredC057]

Tesla will be very slow.
First French zone is starting this weekend February 8th and last one is finishing on march 10th

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